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It’s 2 minutes to midnight and I’m sitting here more pissed off now than when i was at the game. Jim and the team have a long way to go to win the fans back.
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Campbell playing instead of Babunski is embarrassing and completely on Goodwin, Campbell has shown absolutely nothing since singing for us, screams of skacel signing for us and being utter shite.
Absolutely horrendous performance from the back line, Walton for a few weeks has been shown cracks, I’d be tempted to start playing Richards but that is never going to happen.
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The more I think of it im actually baffled as to why Babunski has been bombed by Goodwin ?
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SuperMario wrote:
Campbell playing instead of Babunski is embarrassing and completely on Goodwin, Campbell has shown absolutely nothing since singing for us, screams of skacel signing for us and being utter shite.
Absolutely horrendous performance from the back line, Walton for a few weeks has been shown cracks, I’d be tempted to start playing Richards but that is never going to happen.
In fairness to Walton, he made one major fuck up that cost us but he actually made some big saves in that first half to stop it being 5 or 6. That yesterday was his first major balls-up in 2 years, shite game for it to happen in but surely we can forgive him for it.
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The more I think of it im actually baffled as to why Babunski has been bombed by Goodwin ?
He was poor for a while leading up to getting dropped, and was absolutely shocking in that Aberdeen game where he got hooked at half time and hasn’t been seen since. He definitely deserved to be dropped at that point, but to be absolutely bombed the way he has been for far inferior players is a massive overreaction from Goodwin. Campbell’s been far worse than Babunski ever was.
I want to see him back in the starting XI up at Dingwall, in his preferred position as a number 10, which he’s never gotten to play in his time here. This playing 3 holding midfielders all the time is forcing us to be too deep. It allowed Aberdeen to pin us back the whole second half the other week, and not gonna say it’s the reason we were so shite yesterday, but it definitely didn’t help.
Team for County should be this
GK - Walton
RB - Strain
CB - Gallagher
CB - Graham
LB - Ferry
CM - Doc if fit, if not Sevelj
CM - Sibbald
RW - Middleton
LW - Trapanovski
AM - Babunski
ST - Dalby
That’s the best XI we have available to us right now. Particularly given we can’t go 3 at the back the next couple weeks with Manny out.
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Everyone was just shite. But special mention to: Walton - not just flogging the goal, couple of pathetic flaps from shots he punched right back into the middle of the goal. They scored from one that got VAR’d. Biggest problem was staying on his line at all costs for every cross and long ball. This created some of the problems for our defence.
Campbell. Is not fit and in a team playing utter pish yesterday he still looked like one of us had been given a strip and asked to play professional football.
Manny - has to be the worst of the lot. Got about 20 mins. Managed to get booked, get a straight red give away a pen and had another 50/50 pen where he half pushed the boy right in front of me in the shed and I was convinced was going to VAR.
Don’t blame Goodwin for how shite the players were or selling holt as I doubt it was his decision. But his transfer window was terrible and he keeps playing those players.
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Woke up today and still absolutely gutted and angry with what I witnessed yesterday.
Not like me these days. The older I get, the easier you take these type of results as there are far bigger things in life to worry about.
But yesterday hurt.
The players and Goodwin have a lot of winning back to do between now and May.
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Just on Adegboyega.
He had a shocker, but I honestly felt he was thrown to the Wolves with that tactical switch.
For him to be the only Centre Half up against their pace was just suicidal. I couldn't believe what Goodwin was doing.
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TBF Manny is the quickest centre back we have and he was fresh coming on, it was a gamble to try and get an equaliser, it didn't work, all the damage was done in the first half and I'm led to believe that Goodwin went full Alex Ferguson style at HT for the first time.
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Think this one was on Goodwin, but the clamour from the terraces for a back 4 no doubt pushed him there. If ever there was a game that could have done with keeping it tight at the back this was the one. Ferry looked way off it - not fit I suspect. Graham and Gallagher just can't handle Murray! Strain had a shocking first half.
Boys having a go at Adeboyega need to take a look at themselves. Not his fault we lost three goals. Not his fault he's put on to hold the defence on his own. Not his fault that Murray gets put clean through. Not his fault that Murray is looking for the touch and falls over like a ton of bricks.
Goodwin went for it with that formation and Dundee absolutely crucified him. To be fair to them they were well worth their lead first half and the game should have been over at the HT whistle.
Second half we were much better, but when none of the subbies are up to much what can we do! Moult is finished. Gets up well for the header though and puts it straight into the keepers hands. Paton isn't up to much. Kai is not improving - probably the opposite. vDS ineffective.
I think there is a player in Campbell, but in Sevelj, Stephenson and Sibbald we've already got better options.
They dealt with Dalby very well, but he was about the only player in Tangerine with pass marks.
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Tek wrote:
Just on Adegboyega.
He had a shocker, but I honestly felt he was thrown to the Wolves with that tactical switch.
For him to be the only Centre Half up against their pace was just suicidal. I couldn't believe what Goodwin was doing.
I agree, i don't rate Mani at all but that was an utter nonsense yesterday. You didn't need to be a football guru to work out what the end outcome was going to be.
Goodwin got that one wrong.
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SuperMario wrote:
Campbell playing instead of Babunski is embarrassing and completely on Goodwin, Campbell has shown absolutely nothing since singing for us, screams of skacel signing for us and being utter shite.
Absolutely horrendous performance from the back line, Walton for a few weeks has been shown cracks, I’d be tempted to start playing Richards but that is never going to happen.
In fairness to Walton, he made one major fuck up that cost us but he actually made some big saves in that first half to stop it being 5 or 6. That yesterday was his first major balls-up in 2 years, shite game for it to happen in but surely we can forgive him for it.
Killie goal, his kicking is absolutely abysmal too- it puts us under pressure for nae reason at all
A woeful performance from the whole team yesterday.
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Think this one was on Goodwin, but the clamour from the terraces for a back 4 no doubt pushed him there. If ever there was a game that could have done with keeping it tight at the back this was the one. Ferry looked way off it - not fit I suspect. Graham and Gallagher just can't handle Murray! Strain had a shocking first half.
Boys having a go at Adeboyega need to take a look at themselves. Not his fault we lost three goals. Not his fault he's put on to hold the defence on his own. Not his fault that Murray gets put clean through. Not his fault that Murray is looking for the touch and falls over like a ton of bricks.
Goodwin went for it with that formation and Dundee absolutely crucified him. To be fair to them they were well worth their lead first half and the game should have been over at the HT whistle.
Second half we were much better, but when none of the subbies are up to much what can we do! Moult is finished. Gets up well for the header though and puts it straight into the keepers hands. Paton isn't up to much. Kai is not improving - probably the opposite. vDS ineffective.
I think there is a player in Campbell, but in Sevelj, Stephenson and Sibbald we've already got better options.
They dealt with Dalby very well, but he was about the only player in Tangerine with pass marks.
Good point, most if not all of us wanted 4-3-3 with two wingers and it back fired big time.
Despite having plenty of width we ended up with very few crosses coming from the 18 yard area and lots coming in from the half way line which that big lump at the back for them lapped up with ease.
Moults got to do better for me with a chance, harder to miss it having only seen it once (won't be watching it back).
Back to basics please Jim, I will take the boring, eye bleeding, shocking to watch football again until the season ends.
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JerryDungle wrote:
SuperMario wrote:
Campbell playing instead of Babunski is embarrassing and completely on Goodwin, Campbell has shown absolutely nothing since singing for us, screams of skacel signing for us and being utter shite.
Absolutely horrendous performance from the back line, Walton for a few weeks has been shown cracks, I’d be tempted to start playing Richards but that is never going to happen.
In fairness to Walton, he made one major fuck up that cost us but he actually made some big saves in that first half to stop it being 5 or 6. That yesterday was his first major balls-up in 2 years, shite game for it to happen in but surely we can forgive him for it.
Killie goal, his kicking is absolutely abysmal too- it puts us under pressure for nae reason at all
A woeful performance from the whole team yesterday.
You can make the argument that he maybe should’ve been stronger, but he was fouled for the Killie goal, that the useless ref and var official couldn’t see that doesn’t make it Jack Walton’s fault. His kicking is poor, can’t deny that.
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One thing I will say in Campbells defence is that I thought he was a ball winning midfielder in a similar ilk to Docherty and Sevelj when we signed him.
However, we seem to be playing him in a free role in front of our two defensive midfielders and it hasn't worked at all. I actually assumed when we signed him that he'd be played next to Sevelj most of the time with Sibbald and Docherty both struggling for fitness and the boy Fiorini would be the one in the free role in front of them.
Our shape has been a real issue since the window closed.
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One thing I will say in Campbells defence is that I thought he was a ball winning midfielder in a similar ilk to Docherty and Sevelj when we signed him.
However, we seem to be playing him in a free role in front of our two defensive midfielders and it hasn't worked at all. I actually assumed when we signed him that he'd be played next to Sevelj most of the time with Sibbald and Docherty both struggling for fitness and the boy Fiorini would be in front of them.
Our shape has been a real issue since the window closed.
I am yet to work out any attributes he has (Campbell).
He's not a ball winner, he's not physical, not good in the air, can't run with the ball, doesn't seem to have a range of passing etc etc.
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Totally forgot about this in the absolute shambles that ensued but has anyone seen a replay of Stephensons injury?
Clutching at straws that have long gone, but from where I was sitting in the ETL - at the time I'd have put my left bollock on the boy leading to Luca with an elbow. I was phucking certain that it was a foul and should have been our freekick.
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See although I do think Goodwin has to take his share of the blame for a few things yesterday, some of the players need a reality check and a few harsh words this week.
And I include Will Ferry in that.
See their third goal yesterday, I'm not so much angry that he took a heavy touch and gave the ball away, but I am angry that he made hardly any effort to get back and win the ball.
Watch it back, he barely breaks into a jog.
Unacceptable.
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dyed in the wool wrote:
Totally forgot about this in the absolute shambles that ensued but has anyone seen a replay of Stephensons injury?
Clutching at straws that have long gone, but from where I was sitting in the ETL - at the time I'd have put my left bollock on the boy leading to Luca with an elbow. I was phucking certain that it was a foul and should have been our freekick.
Don't think DUTV or PSports showed a replay so couldn't check for an elbow but viewing it live I thought it was a bad foul on Luca. No attempt by the Dundee player to win the ball.
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dyed in the wool wrote:
Totally forgot about this in the absolute shambles that ensued but has anyone seen a replay of Stephensons injury?
Clutching at straws that have long gone, but from where I was sitting in the ETL - at the time I'd have put my left bollock on the boy leading to Luca with an elbow. I was phucking certain that it was a foul and should have been our freekick.
Spot on m8. Happened right in front of me. Elbowed in the side or the haed.
And how many times did that dehvin Sylla chunt get free-kicks for his sh1te. He wouldna need much coaching to join the French Olympic Springboard team.
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The biggest issue was the two CBs looked miles from being match fit. They sat of the game leaving the midfield with a huge are to cover when it was effectively 3 against 5.
The two wingers did not do their defensive duties. Trapanovski man scored twice when he was unmarked and Middleton left Strain two on one on a number of occasions including the first goal.
A lot of criticism of Adeboyega here but none of Sibbald, his appalling pass caused the penalty and the red card.
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The biggest issue was the two CBs looked miles from being match fit. They sat of the game leaving the midfield with a huge are to cover when it was effectively 3 against 5.
The two wingers did not do their defensive duties. Trapanovski man scored twice when he was unmarked and Middleton left Strain two on one on a number of occasions including the first goal.
A lot of criticism of Adeboyega here but none of Sibbald, his appalling pass caused the penalty and the red card.
I still maintain that it didn't warrant a straight red card, a yellow card was sufficient (even though he would still have been off as already booked).
Murray was going wide of the post so no way was that an obvious goal scoring opportunity, Walsh loves a red card issued the most in the league this season.
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Just watched the highlights to see if it was as bad as I thought.... it was. They had runners all first half and nobody picked them up. Not that it would change the result, I'd question if the throw in leading to the Walton drop was a foul throw. Walt9n for as good as hes been this season had a clanger. Hope he picks up. Ferry got skinned for one of the goals and just gives up running.
Var worked! Good for the league getting it right for once.
Adeboyega should never have put his hands on murray - we all know what hes like. Any excuse to fall down
At the 4th, it's a pointless push. He is going wide and Walton has a chance to save.
For me. The difference for me is we need our players to be more like Goodwin was as a player. They were all very nice whereas dundee were tugging holding down. Elbowing and being generally dirty bastards. I hate to say it but we need somebody like murray to orchestrate the chuntyness.
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Just watched the highlights to see if it was as bad as I thought.... it was. They had runners all first half and nobody picked them up. Not that it would change the result, I'd question if the throw in leading to the Walton drop was a foul throw. Walt9n for as good as hes been this season had a clanger. Hope he picks up. Ferry got skinned for one of the goals and just gives up running.
Var worked! Good for the league getting it right for once.
Adeboyega should never have put his hands on murray - we all know what hes like. Any excuse to fall down
At the 4th, it's a pointless push. He is going wide and Walton has a chance to save.
For me. The difference for me is we need our players to be more like Goodwin was as a player. They were all very nice whereas dundee were tugging holding down. Elbowing and being generally dirty bastards. I hate to say it but we need somebody like murray to orchestrate the chuntyness.
Generally Murray ripped us apart all game. Wish we had got him in the summer. Exactly the kind of striker we need.
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Tangy wrote:
Just watched the highlights to see if it was as bad as I thought.... it was. They had runners all first half and nobody picked them up. Not that it would change the result, I'd question if the throw in leading to the Walton drop was a foul throw. Walt9n for as good as hes been this season had a clanger. Hope he picks up. Ferry got skinned for one of the goals and just gives up running.
Var worked! Good for the league getting it right for once.
Adeboyega should never have put his hands on murray - we all know what hes like. Any excuse to fall down
At the 4th, it's a pointless push. He is going wide and Walton has a chance to save.
For me. The difference for me is we need our players to be more like Goodwin was as a player. They were all very nice whereas dundee were tugging holding down. Elbowing and being generally dirty bastards. I hate to say it but we need somebody like murray to orchestrate the chuntyness.
Generally Murray ripped us apart all game. Wish we had got him in the summer. Exactly the kind of stricken we need.
I would doubt we could have come up with the transfer fee.