No idea, but being stuck over here as neighbours to these eejits, the thought of Trump winning again is terrifying. I'm in Alberta, which is often referred to as "the Texas of the North", and for good reason. Confederate flags, blatant racism, hatred of immigrants and Indigenous people, hard core Christofascism, climate change denial, COVID denial, hatred of doctors, nurses, teachers, university faculty, and any other public servants, and no women's right. The atmosphere here has got much worse over the past 8 years. I've had my phone number removed from the university website, and there have been a couple of occasions recently when I've gone out of the house and have decided it would be a good idea to carry something with me for a bit of extra protection.

Harris is far from perfect, but fuck me - it shouldn't even be a choice. And yet we're looking at it being too close to call.

People are idiots.

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Again it will be decided in the 5 or 6? swing states, probably by a baw hair.

Still blows my mind anybody, regardless of your political leanings, could watch Trump speak and think "he seems a stable. articulate, well rounded individual, I think I'd like him to be our leader".

That Project 25 stuff is frightening. 

C'mon Harris.

 
We forget that nobody could understand why anyone voted for George W Bush. We all knew very little about middle America.

It’s not like you can fact check Trump. He tells stories and people believe what they want to believe.

Remember Farage managed to convince the majority of UK electorate that leaving the EU would be a good thing.

True.  Dubya seems relatively sane compared to Frump,

Some of the comments from speakers at his rally at MSG the other night- thon boy Cardone saying "her pimp handlers will destroy our country;" about Harris and the other guy David Rem calling her "the devil" and "the anti-Christ." 

Pretty depressing stuff.  That's of course after they played the song Dixie at the start of the event.   They are not even trying to hide it anymore.  

They’re both absolutely batshit crazy. Trump shouldn’t win but then you see some of Harris’ speeches and it’s like she’s just downed a bottle of 20/20. Trying far too hard to be “one of the people” and “down with the kids”. 
Has she answered a question straight yet? So Kamala, how’s the weather today?—Well, I was brought up middle class and Trump is a bad man. 
I think Trump will win purely because the opponent comes across so badly. 

Macbonzo wrote:

japanarab wrote:

They’re both absolutely batshit crazy. Trump shouldn’t win but then you see some of Harris’ speeches and it’s like she’s just downed a bottle of 20/20. Trying far too hard to be “one of the people” and “down with the kids”. 
Has she answered a question straight yet? So Kamala, how’s the weather today?—Well, I was brought up middle class and Trump is a bad man. 
I think Trump will win purely because the opponent comes across so badly. 

 
You were right and it wasn’t even close.

It seems to me plenty of people despised Trump, but despised “the establishment” more. Obviously in his latter years Biden was a complete embarrassment, but his party should have told him, at least two years ago, that he wasn’t going to be their nominee. To bring in Kamala Harris at the last moment, was an act of desperation.

Biden’s unfettered backing of Israel alienated Muslim voters to the extent they would rather vote for Trump! That is hard to comprehend.

This is the second time in 10 years the Democrats put up a very poor candidate. While I would never compare Harris to Hillary Clinton (Trading Cattle Futures, blatant nepotism and corruption), she still came across as vacuous.

My own opinion is that too many old guard Democrats are hanging on to power at any cost.

Her team come cross as a lot of middle aged people trying to portray her as “cool” and focused far too much on how bad Trump is. Did you see the ads they ran with the guy having a w@nk and the old Republican walks in to stop him, claiming “now I’m in charge you can’t do that.” Who TF are they aiming that at?? Trump will take away your porn, vote Kamala to keep it. Mental!! If they had a run of the mill candidate, focused on what they were gonna do rather than everything being about Trump being bad they probably would’ve won easily. 

The rallies are a good example. The democrats wheel out Megan the Stallion wiggling her arse about like a stripper, J-Lo with her fake tears, Cardi B rambling from notes on an iPhone, Beyonce saying about three sentences of nothing. Trump wheels out the richest man in the world. Guess who your rednecks, blue collar workers are gonna choose to vote for after that?