Canadian Arab wrote:

Benji beaten at his near post with an un-screened 25 yarder, then let a soft one squirm under him (chalked off) and made a questionable attempt to cut out the cross-cum-shot (and got nowhere near it) that put them 2 up.
None of our back 4 looked comfortable in possession. Edwards has been a shadow of his early season self since he was made captain. Neilson offers far less attacking threat than Freeman.
Levitt has been out for a couple of months but played the entire game sitting in front of the back 4, in a game where St. Mirren sat in after going ahead early and we needed our creativity coming from just behind the front 2, not from just in front of the centre halves. Ten minutes for Glass should have been at least 45.
Niskanen brought in as a winger, and we have him either playing almost at left back, or more centrally further up the pitch where his service is shite 50-50 high balls. Get him on the touch line and get the ball to his feet with space in front of him. You just knew he would be the one subbed off first. Not his fault.
We used to say you couldn't take a beach ball off of Fuchs in a phone box. These days you can stand outside the phone box and just wait for Fuchs to cough it up all by himself.
As someone else said, McNulty hasn't played a game in months, but we start him and leave the league's match-fit top scorer on the bench for an hour, during which we couldn't have scored in a bucket of fannies. All because "Watt has only trained with us once". News flash - we brought in Watt because the boys who train with us all the feckin time couldn't hit a coo's erse with a banjo.
McNulty isolated up front. And when Watt eventually came on, we had him wide left FFS.
It took until Freeman came on before we put any dangerous balls into the box. And Freeman put in more quality balls (including one on a plate for McNulty that he HAD to score, as well as the one that got our goal) in 20 minutes than the rest of the team did the entire game. Freeman always gives us an advanced outlet out wide. Until he offered us that, the build-up play consisted of (usually) keeping possession in our own half, and hoping Levitt can thread a pass through to a central midfielder who is still 60 yards from their goal, or to McNulty who doesn't have a team mate within 30 yards of him - even if he takes a decent first touch and keeps the ball rather than try some shitey flick.
There are so many things that need addressed to fix this. New players is not one of them if we persist with this "style" of getting forward. Courts got the gig on the back of running great training sessions with the younger players. There's a world of difference between setting up a quality training session and managing your players to win a game against a Jim Goodwin, or a Dick Campbell. I really hoped Courts would do well for us, but for me there was always a nagging doubt that he would be out-managed in these tight games against "street fighter" managers. One in 11 suggests that's the case. FWIW I had the same thoughts about Ian Cathro. Technically great training sessions. Fantastic at developing quality youth players. Found out by the big boys on game day.
Our squad, on paper, is 5th or 6th best in the country. Our form is not just relegation form, but 12th place relegation form, and we're very fortunate to have racked up points early in the season.
If we don't progress in the cup and put in a good attacking performance at Killie, I think we should be looking for a new manager. Not a head coach - a manager.
I'd take Levein overseeing the current coaching staff, in a heart beat.

No so sure about the Benji critisism other than that wholeheartedly agree .

Ref was a total twat which didnae help.

How many times in past years have we seen teams we should be beating sit in, invite us on and we're bereft of ideas.
Coaches of mediocre teams like St. Mirren Livi etc not to mention those in diddy Division before have known this for years They must relish visiting Tannadice. They set out to make it hard and all to often it succeeds.
No coincedence that we've scored so few yet again - last year was the same scenario and the year before.
Remedying the problem was Tam's brief.   

Failing Tam.


 

Absolute s.hite in the first half, yet again.

Slightly improved in the second. Same old story as many games this season. Seriously not good enough.

Wrong team started, as all Arabs are saying, and boring, negative, passing back and forth achieving Fek all tactics highly prevalent again. And I’m no seeing this “chemistry” at all.

Ref was an incompetent fool, usual standard of s.hite refereeing. Definite pen for us.

FFS, this has been a phuking awful few months.

Massive improvement required.

Aberdeen Arab wrote:

dufc2019 wrote:

Snacks94 wrote:

 
Replaced by who though? Liam smith is still injured according to Tam.

Neilson - Quicker and better on the ball
 

 
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that this hasn’t aged well. Tam’s system is so reliant on the full backs. Never want to see another CB at FB again

Agreed.

Awful decision.

Freeman has been our ypoty. Actually wants to get forward (unlike most).
 

Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

Canadian Arab wrote:

Benji beaten at his near post with an un-screened 25 yarder, then let a soft one squirm under him (chalked off) and made a questionable attempt to cut out the cross-cum-shot (and got nowhere near it) that put them 2 up.
None of our back 4 looked comfortable in possession. Edwards has been a shadow of his early season self since he was made captain. Neilson offers far less attacking threat than Freeman.
Levitt has been out for a couple of months but played the entire game sitting in front of the back 4, in a game where St. Mirren sat in after going ahead early and we needed our creativity coming from just behind the front 2, not from just in front of the centre halves. Ten minutes for Glass should have been at least 45.
Niskanen brought in as a winger, and we have him either playing almost at left back, or more centrally further up the pitch where his service is shite 50-50 high balls. Get him on the touch line and get the ball to his feet with space in front of him. You just knew he would be the one subbed off first. Not his fault.
We used to say you couldn't take a beach ball off of Fuchs in a phone box. These days you can stand outside the phone box and just wait for Fuchs to cough it up all by himself.
As someone else said, McNulty hasn't played a game in months, but we start him and leave the league's match-fit top scorer on the bench for an hour, during which we couldn't have scored in a bucket of fannies. All because "Watt has only trained with us once". News flash - we brought in Watt because the boys who train with us all the feckin time couldn't hit a coo's erse with a banjo.
McNulty isolated up front. And when Watt eventually came on, we had him wide left FFS.
It took until Freeman came on before we put any dangerous balls into the box. And Freeman put in more quality balls (including one on a plate for McNulty that he HAD to score, as well as the one that got our goal) in 20 minutes than the rest of the team did the entire game. Freeman always gives us an advanced outlet out wide. Until he offered us that, the build-up play consisted of (usually) keeping possession in our own half, and hoping Levitt can thread a pass through to a central midfielder who is still 60 yards from their goal, or to McNulty who doesn't have a team mate within 30 yards of him - even if he takes a decent first touch and keeps the ball rather than try some shitey flick.
There are so many things that need addressed to fix this. New players is not one of them if we persist with this "style" of getting forward. Courts got the gig on the back of running great training sessions with the younger players. There's a world of difference between setting up a quality training session and managing your players to win a game against a Jim Goodwin, or a Dick Campbell. I really hoped Courts would do well for us, but for me there was always a nagging doubt that he would be out-managed in these tight games against "street fighter" managers. One in 11 suggests that's the case. FWIW I had the same thoughts about Ian Cathro. Technically great training sessions. Fantastic at developing quality youth players. Found out by the big boys on game day.
Our squad, on paper, is 5th or 6th best in the country. Our form is not just relegation form, but 12th place relegation form, and we're very fortunate to have racked up points early in the season.
If we don't progress in the cup and put in a good attacking performance at Killie, I think we should be looking for a new manager. Not a head coach - a manager.
I'd take Levein overseeing the current coaching staff, in a heart beat.

No so sure about the Benji critisism other than that wholeheartedly agree .

Ref was a total twat which didnae help.

How many times in past years have we seen teams we should be beating sit in, invite us on and we're bereft of ideas.
Coaches of mediocre teams like St. Mirren Livi etc not to mention those in diddy Division before have known this for years They must relish visiting Tannadice. They set out to make it hard and all to often it succeeds.
No coincedence that we've scored so few yet again - last year was the same scenario and the year before.
Remedying the problem was Tam's brief.   

Failing Tam.


 

Agree with both posts and the latter on Siegrist.  He's not expecting the boy to score the first so there is a bit of an excuse.  For the chopped off one the fact that he gets caught out by it supports the decision.  Struggling to blame him for the second - you've got to look at the boys in front of him there.  Fuchs looks like the one who needs a rest.

people loosing their shit because watt came on on the left ?

thats were he played for motherwell

smedDUm wrote:

dufc2019 wrote:

Tek wrote:

Agreed.

Awful decision.

Freeman has been our ypoty. Actually wants to get forward (unlike most).
 

I can see why he did it, freeman had looked off it in the last few games (terrible against hibs) but i agree the neilson thing didnt really work 
 

Freeman went off injured at half time v Hibs.
My biggest criticism from last night was playing Neilson in place of Freeman.
That was bad.
 

we didnt lose the game cause neilson played rb
 

dufc2019 wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

dufc2019 wrote:

I can see why he did it, freeman had looked off it in the last few games (terrible against hibs) but i agree the neilson thing didnt really work 
 

Freeman went off injured at half time v Hibs.
My biggest criticism from last night was playing Neilson in place of Freeman.
That was bad.
 

we didnt lose the game cause neilson played rb
 

It might sound a bit far-fetched mate but I could be right.
I'm not wanting to criticise Neilson so I won't.
 

dufc2019 wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

dufc2019 wrote:

we didnt lose the game cause neilson played rb
 

Perhaps not directly, but we clearly looked a different proposition once Freeman came on.  Why not start the game like that and get a lead and then by all means we can start experimenting with square pegs in round holes provided we still win the game.  Starting to play 2 down at home against St Mirren is just clueless stuff.  Tam and Always need to stop believing their own hype and get on with winning games.  As someone else has said we have a squad that should be top half at least so we are totally failing at the moment - better managers have found us out and we don't seem to have a plan b.

it could be argued that the reason we looked different is that Stmirren started to drop off and defend the lead
 

Only because we made them, like we should have from the start.  Not sure what is was about their no wins in 11 that had Courts sh1tting himself from kick-off.  The more I think about it the angrier I get - he has to go ideally aling with the Fat Controller.

kdyteejay wrote:

SlatefordArab wrote:

Where to even begin with last night?   Fuchs, what the fuck has happened to him?  If his head has been turned and he wants away then please just let him go now.  Pawlette and Harkes non existent.  Benji - like Fuchs, if he is speaking to The Rangers or anybody else then off you pop son.  Watt on the bench?  good ain Tam!

Levitt is clearly a really talented lad but fuck me he looks like he is running through treacle, even just walking towards the corner flag to take a corner - fucking move it!!!

I was watching Niskenen and McNulty closely in the fist half and time and time again the made runs to try and get in behind the defence and time and time again whoever had possession played the ball 2 yard sideways to go nowhere.

Totally agree, the amount of times McNulty made great runs and not once was an attempt made to play him in was ridiculous. It was really frustrating the life out of me.

Also noticed this. McNulty and Niskanen both making good runs and zero through balls or passing to them . Midfield content to pass it between each other then backwards to defenders. Bloody awful. Sick to death of that s.hite.

We really need an improvement in our play, tactics and performance otherwise we are in serious trouble.

Hopefully starting against Killie and Dross Coonty who both seem to have improved a bit unfortunately.

Agree with a lot being said in here and it has become clear that after the first round of games all of the teams have now adapted to the way we play - what we need now is a change of approach 

That and too manty players that are not performing well seem to keep being picked, how many of our midfield were in good form before the break and yet they seem to come back and all get picked, how many will be dropped this weekend and then be back the following week if there replacement is not 10 out of 10.

how many more games can we afford not to win before something changes.

Lancashire-Arab wrote:

Agree with a lot being said in here and it has become clear that after the first round of games all of the teams have now adapted to the way we play - what we need now is a change of approach 

That and too manty players that are not performing well seem to keep being picked, how many of our midfield were in good form before the break and yet they seem to come back and all get picked, how many will be dropped this weekend and then be back the following week if there replacement is not 10 out of 10.

how many more games can we afford not to win before something changes.

couldnt agree more, time to put 1 of the Ibrox youngsters in to see if they can have more composure
 

SuperMario wrote:

KdyArab wrote:

Tek wrote:

He'll be released this window.

What a monumental waste of money these past few months.
 

 
Offski according to Burns. Cambridge one of the teams linked.

 
Signed to presumably play up front with mcnulty and now putted

So we have watt who will probably now have to play on the left as we have absolutely zero wingers who are any use at the moment , appere - who know one seems to know where his best position is, Clark who plays more as a midfielder when played up front , and mcnulty who cant hit a barn door wee a banjo

iPad says otherwise.