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03/8/2021 12:40 am  #1


Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Please, go 4-4-2 Tam. 

..............................Siegrist......................
L.Smith.......Edwards....Reynolds....Mulgrew
Chalmers.....Fuchs....Butcher.....Sporle
...................Shankland...Clark..................

Subs - Carson, Robson, Harkes, Freeman
            Mochrie, Pawlett, Neilson

 

03/8/2021 8:25 am  #2


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Don't normally feel this but does it matter what team /formation TC puts out?

The gulf between the two teams is back to what it was about 20yrs ago when The old Rangers won 6-1 at Tannadice🙈

Possibly the worst fixture for TCs first home match. Also many fans first game back for 18mths.

 

03/8/2021 11:13 am  #3


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

......................................Benji

Freeman......Edwards.........Mulgrew........Robson

Chalmers.......Butcher......Fuchs..............Sporle

................................Mochrie

.............................Shankland

Last edited by lifesanocean (03/8/2021 11:14 am)


Too much commotion
 

03/8/2021 5:16 pm  #4


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

 

03/8/2021 5:33 pm  #5


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Some folk might strike it lucky and be refused a ticket.
 

 

03/8/2021 6:25 pm  #6


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Finn Seemann wrote:

Some folk might strike it lucky and be refused a ticket.
 

 
As a season ticket holder who has not yet got off his arse to try and get a ticket does this mean I will not be at the game.

I'm sure I heard a statement from the club saying all season ticket holders would get in.

Is it a secret what Saturdays capacity is?

 

03/8/2021 6:55 pm  #7


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

Some folk might strike it lucky and be refused a ticket.
 

 
As a season ticket holder who has not yet got off his arse to try and get a ticket does this mean I will not be at the game.

I'm sure I heard a statement from the club saying all season ticket holders would get in.

Is it a secret what Saturdays capacity is?

Ask big Tone - he's in charge.  I'd use the head in sand jibe again but that would be cruel.  At least this way you don't get to see how mince we are and can keep going with the 'nothing to see here' diatribe.

 

03/8/2021 7:04 pm  #8


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Finn Seemann wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


Some folk might strike it lucky and be refused a ticket.
 

 
As a season ticket holder who has not yet got off his arse to try and get a ticket does this mean I will not be at the game.

I'm sure I heard a statement from the club saying all season ticket holders would get in.

Is it a secret what Saturdays capacity is?

Ask big Tone - he's in charge.  I'd use the head in sand jibe again but that would be cruel.  At least this way you don't get to see how mince we are and can keep going with the 'nothing to see here' diatribe.

 
More innacurate info from yourself I've never said there is nothing to see I said the team as it stands is only going in one direction. I said TC will be removed if he does not get results.
I just don't have any real interest in TA or behind the scenes at Tannadice.
I'm only interested in the team on the park.
I'm a supporter not a forensic accountant or private detective.

 

03/8/2021 7:12 pm  #9


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

Beharder wrote:


 
As a season ticket holder who has not yet got off his arse to try and get a ticket does this mean I will not be at the game.

I'm sure I heard a statement from the club saying all season ticket holders would get in.

Is it a secret what Saturdays capacity is?

Ask big Tone - he's in charge.  I'd use the head in sand jibe again but that would be cruel.  At least this way you don't get to see how mince we are and can keep going with the 'nothing to see here' diatribe.

 
More innacurate info from yourself I've never said there is nothing to see I said the team as it stands is only going in one direction. I said TC will be removed if he does not get results.
I just don't have any real interest in TA or behind the scenes at Tannadice.
I'm only interested in the team on the park.
I'm a supporter not a forensic accountant or private detective.

I get that - nothing wrong with it.  However if we continue with the Asghar Project my fear is you won't have a team on the park to be interested in.  Surely that does then prick your attention?  We are burning so much cash (with very little tangible in return (unlike the ET era)) that if Mr Ogren decides enough is enough then we are well and truly screwed.  Relegation cannot happen.  Mr Ogren is wealthy, but I don't think he has pockets as deep as the boy at Ross County - he's no billionaire.  I'd like to think that I'm worrying over nothing, but I'm not.  We are going in the wrong direction and that could cost us our club.

 

03/8/2021 7:34 pm  #10


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Finn Seemann wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


Ask big Tone - he's in charge.  I'd use the head in sand jibe again but that would be cruel.  At least this way you don't get to see how mince we are and can keep going with the 'nothing to see here' diatribe.

 
More innacurate info from yourself I've never said there is nothing to see I said the team as it stands is only going in one direction. I said TC will be removed if he does not get results.
I just don't have any real interest in TA or behind the scenes at Tannadice.
I'm only interested in the team on the park.
I'm a supporter not a forensic accountant or private detective.

I get that - nothing wrong with it.  However if we continue with the Asghar Project my fear is you won't have a team on the park to be interested in.  Surely that does then prick your attention?  We are burning so much cash (with very little tangible in return (unlike the ET era)) that if Mr Ogren decides enough is enough then we are well and truly screwed.  Relegation cannot happen.  Mr Ogren is wealthy, but I don't think he has pockets as deep as the boy at Ross County - he's no billionaire.  I'd like to think that I'm worrying over nothing, but I'm not.  We are going in the wrong direction and that could cost us our club.

 
It's the narrative that it's the Ashgar project that I find a bit strange
Are you and others suggesting that MO is over in America blissfully unaware what TA is doing with his money?
If MO thought TA was taking him for a ride he would be removed.
It's MO money that's at stake here
This is this the MO project.

 

03/8/2021 8:39 pm  #11


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

Beharder wrote:

 
More innacurate info from yourself I've never said there is nothing to see I said the team as it stands is only going in one direction. I said TC will be removed if he does not get results.
I just don't have any real interest in TA or behind the scenes at Tannadice.
I'm only interested in the team on the park.
I'm a supporter not a forensic accountant or private detective.

I get that - nothing wrong with it.  However if we continue with the Asghar Project my fear is you won't have a team on the park to be interested in.  Surely that does then prick your attention?  We are burning so much cash (with very little tangible in return (unlike the ET era)) that if Mr Ogren decides enough is enough then we are well and truly screwed.  Relegation cannot happen.  Mr Ogren is wealthy, but I don't think he has pockets as deep as the boy at Ross County - he's no billionaire.  I'd like to think that I'm worrying over nothing, but I'm not.  We are going in the wrong direction and that could cost us our club.

 
It's the narrative that it's the Ashgar project that I find a bit strange
Are you and others suggesting that MO is over in America blissfully unaware what TA is doing with his money?
If MO thought TA was taking him for a ride he would be removed.
It's MO money that's at stake here
This is this the MO project.

That could indeed be right.  I just hold the view that MO is unlikely to be wilfully pissing his money down the drain and that someone (guess who?) has sold him the idea that this can make some form of return.  Perhaps someone who brokered the original deal to buy the club?  I'm hoping that when MO realises he's been taken for a ride that he does remove TA and changes direction.  I don't think MO was ever thinking he'd become richer backing United, but I am pretty damn sure that he didn't think he'd be putting in £350K a month on top of his original investment.  MO's money is at stake, but he has put it all in as loans as far as I am aware. Debt can be called at any time.   It's just as well he's a dyed in the wool Arab as otherwise he might be thinking of asset stripping to get his cash back - and I don't mean selling Shankland.  It's not as if Americans don't have previous for that.

Last edited by Finn Seemann (03/8/2021 8:40 pm)

 

03/8/2021 9:33 pm  #12


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Same as you Beharder.

Spent the day on a 10 hour train journey from Devon. Got hame. Tried to dae the online Registration as per, and it comes up we a message saying that the On-line Registration is Closed FFS.

When I tried the 2nd time, this page came up instead.

Eh wondered WTF was wrong. Now me and the young lad, like you according to this, are'na getting in !

Eh mean WTF. Eh've played the same as ah chunt else. There wisnae meant to be a ballot. But fae whar Eh'm standin, it looks like fowk in groups oe 6 or above have got favour over anes that go in 1s or 2s.

Phuckin livid doesna go near the mood Eh'm in ATM.

Last edited by Billy_Hainey (03/8/2021 9:34 pm)

 

03/8/2021 9:45 pm  #13


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Billy_Hainey wrote:

Same as you Beharder.

Spent the day on a 10 hour train journey from Devon. Got hame. Tried to dae the online Registration as per, and it comes up we a message saying that the On-line Registration is Closed FFS.

When I tried the 2nd time, this page came up instead.

Eh wondered WTF was wrong. Now me and the young lad, like you according to this, are'na getting in !

Eh mean WTF. Eh've played the same as ah chunt else. There wisnae meant to be a ballot. But fae whar Eh'm standin, it looks like fowk in groups oe 6 or above have got favour over anes that go in 1s or 2s.

Phuckin livid doesna go near the mood Eh'm in ATM.

 
At least you've got an excuse Billy, being on a train , I just couldn't be bothered because I definitely heard TC say they would get all ST holders in.

 

03/8/2021 9:57 pm  #14


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Says it here tae m8. 4600 plus. It was on another page tae that's been ta'en doon.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6926/INCREASED-CAPACITY-FOR-RANGERS-GAME.html

 

03/8/2021 10:32 pm  #15


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

I've actually got a little bit of sympathy for them on the ticket front as the whole thing is an utter shambles.  As usual however the communication has been woeful and that has presumably meant more than a few season ticket holders not getting in.  Putting up a message today which gave little indication that seats were running out and then the very same day confirming they had seems pretty amateur.
I think things are relaxed to 5000 from the week after so hopefully that means a seat for every season ticket holder after this game, but I sympathise with you guys frustration here.

 

03/8/2021 10:34 pm  #16


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

Billy_Hainey wrote:

Same as you Beharder.

Spent the day on a 10 hour train journey from Devon. Got hame. Tried to dae the online Registration as per, and it comes up we a message saying that the On-line Registration is Closed FFS.

When I tried the 2nd time, this page came up instead.

Eh wondered WTF was wrong. Now me and the young lad, like you according to this, are'na getting in !

Eh mean WTF. Eh've played the same as ah chunt else. There wisnae meant to be a ballot. But fae whar Eh'm standin, it looks like fowk in groups oe 6 or above have got favour over anes that go in 1s or 2s.

Phuckin livid doesna go near the mood Eh'm in ATM.

 
At least you've got an excuse Billy, being on a train , I just couldn't be bothered because I definitely heard TC say they would get all ST holders in.

To be fair to TC I don't think he really expects the fans to rely on what he says if the Aberdeen post match interview is anything to go by....

 

03/8/2021 10:53 pm  #17


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

...........
 
At least you've got an excuse Billy, being on a train , I just couldn't be bothered because I definitely heard TC say they would get all ST holders in.

Admire your bottle for saying this bud, but the On-line Registration was meant to be open the night till midnight. Still days that on the Club Website.

So even if you were being "lazy", you shoulda still been able to apply for a seat ATM.

 

03/8/2021 11:06 pm  #18


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Finn Seemann wrote:

I've actually got a little bit of sympathy for them on the ticket front as the whole thing is an utter shambles.  As usual however the communication has been woeful and that has presumably meant more than a few season ticket holders not getting in.  Putting up a message today which gave little indication that seats were running out and then the very same day confirming they had seems pretty amateur.
I think things are relaxed to 5000 from the week after so hopefully that means a seat for every season ticket holder after this game, but I sympathise with you guys frustration here.

Me tae pal. When this was 1st publicised, I said to my family, that I thought this was a big ask for the Club to manage and control, 1 factor being a matter of resources. (Manpower / I.T., time span, impossible deadline). Needless to say, that logistics of this were unknown to anyone. (No had any experience of doing this before).

Take it from me m8, I spent 2/3 of my life responsible for the implementation of major IT and Logistics projects, and I knew this single task was almost impossible from the start.


 

 

04/8/2021 10:34 am  #19


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

The Club have been allowed to allocate more seats to ST holders after yesterday's fau-pax.

As from 10am this morning.

Heres the URL if anybody's still to get tickers.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6936/LATEST-RANGERS-TICKETS-APPLICATION-UPDATE.html

Gaed luck lads.

 

04/8/2021 11:04 am  #20


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Question: If the club are having problems accomodating all the ST holders (got sympathy with them due to the horrendous logistics of it, not helped it would appear, by the amount of punters who have not heeded the clubs advice to form bubbles of between 6-15 people) why don't they open the Jim McLean Stand to let more in?

It can't be because potentially disgruntled punters will be too close to the directors box and the dugout for comfort surely???


Too much commotion
 

04/8/2021 11:12 am  #21


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

I would assume cost. less stands means less staff. They';ve tried to accommodate all ST holder that they've already had the money from, they won't make any money out of this game at all. Assuming that all kiosks are still shut etc. 

 

04/8/2021 11:28 am  #22


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Billy_Hainey wrote:

The Club have been allowed to allocate more seats to ST holders after yesterday's fau-pax.

As from 10am this morning.

Heres the URL if anybody's still to get tickers.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6936/LATEST-RANGERS-TICKETS-APPLICATION-UPDATE.html

Gaed luck lads.

 
Got my tickets now, only really single and double seats left. However I've got a lovely view from the happy clappers section.

 

04/8/2021 12:12 pm  #23


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Beharder wrote:

Billy_Hainey wrote:

The Club have been allowed to allocate more seats to ST holders after yesterday's fau-pax.

As from 10am this morning.

Heres the URL if anybody's still to get tickers.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6936/LATEST-RANGERS-TICKETS-APPLICATION-UPDATE.html

Gaed luck lads.

 
Got my tickets now, only really single and double seats left. However I've got a lovely view from the happy clappers section.

Perfect for you 
 

 

04/8/2021 6:41 pm  #24


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Just seen on Mad that you need to pre-book your leaving slot.  After Rangers 3rd and 4th goals already very popular.  Might make sense to go for 2nd just in case?

Last edited by Finn Seemann (04/8/2021 6:42 pm)

 

04/8/2021 6:46 pm  #25


Re: Dundee Utd v Rangers - Sat 7/8/21 (12.30PM)

Finn Seemann wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


Ask big Tone - he's in charge.  I'd use the head in sand jibe again but that would be cruel.  At least this way you don't get to see how mince we are and can keep going with the 'nothing to see here' diatribe.

 
More innacurate info from yourself I've never said there is nothing to see I said the team as it stands is only going in one direction. I said TC will be removed if he does not get results.
I just don't have any real interest in TA or behind the scenes at Tannadice.
I'm only interested in the team on the park.
I'm a supporter not a forensic accountant or private detective.

I get that - nothing wrong with it.  However if we continue with the Asghar Project my fear is you won't have a team on the park to be interested in.  Surely that does then prick your attention?  We are burning so much cash (with very little tangible in return (unlike the ET era)) that if Mr Ogren decides enough is enough then we are well and truly screwed.  Relegation cannot happen.  Mr Ogren is wealthy, but I don't think he has pockets as deep as the boy at Ross County - he's no billionaire.  I'd like to think that I'm worrying over nothing, but I'm not.  We are going in the wrong direction and that could cost us our club.

The Ross County owner isn't a billionaire, fucking heard it all now 

 

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