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14/10/2019 10:58 am  #2051


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 553.
Mekons..................................Fear And Whiskey   (1985)













Mekons are one of the UK's most brilliant and undervalued groups. Formed as a loose collective in Leeds in 1977 when they started messing around with the Gang Of Fours equipment, they released a couple of chaotic LP's (plus the single "Never Been In A Riot" directed at The Clash) and then took a sabbatical.


Energised by the miners strike of '84 to '85 the band (with original members Jon Langford and Tom Greenhalgh) re-emerged with Fear And Whiskey, lauded by many as the best album of the decade.


High praise indeed, can't say I've heard any Mekons stuff before, but intrigued and looking forward to giving this a listen.


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14/10/2019 8:10 pm  #2052


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 551.
Dire Straits.........................Brothers In Arms   (1985)













Not a great Dire Straits fan, in fact he's another knob, but for me this album was a half decent listen, I say half decent because I enjoyed side 1, side 2 not so much.

Knopfler was a pretty good songwriter, whom I have started to grudgingly give a bit more credit, hell he's even no bad at the strummin game as well, but tends to go off point and get a bit wanky at the drap o' a hat.


I have to admit I have more time for it these days, I'm sure I dismissed it back then but hopefully pretentiousness is a burden I've offloaded as the years have rolled on, the first side of Brothers In Arms was a joy and the second side may well have been overshadowed by the former.


Anyways, all in all a good listen, but a few tracks longer than necessary in my humbles, so not quite good enough for me to part with my hard earned, I don't think I would play often enough to justify the cost, so will be downloading it mean time, this album won't be going into my vinyl collection, also thought the album cover a bit plain even though it was Mark Knopfler's 1937 14-fret National Style "O" Resonator.






Bits & Bobs;

Have written about this band already in post #1527 (if interested)





Rolling Stone                           July 4, 1985 4:00AM ETBrothers In ArmsBy Debby Bull




Except for their swell debut hit single, “Sultans of Swing,” in 1979, the British band Dire Straits has never come as much of a surprise. And, then, what caught you off guard was how much the singer sounded like Dylan. Brothers in Arms, their first studio album since Love over Gold three years ago, offers more of their winsomely rocking tunes. The band is augmented by bassist Tony Levin, Weather Report drummer Omar Hakim, a horn section, which includes the Brecker Brothers, and some thirteen different keyboards that are used to explore orchestral textures. Carefully crafted instead of raucous, pretty rather than booming, and occasionally affecting, the record is beautifully produced, with Mark Knopfler’s terrific guitar work catching the best light. The lyrics are literate, but the scenarios aren’t as interesting as they used to be on records like Making Movies, still the band’s most solid LP.
Side one has the most driving songs: the bouncy “Walk of Life,” a Fifties rock & roll song about cool Fifties rock & roll songs that features a cheesy organ sound, and “So Far Away,” a missive from a distant town, with a catchy bass line rumbling underneath it. After a grandiose introduction, “Money for Nothing” shows what a guy who moves refrigerators for a living thinks of the rock stars on MTV. “See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup/Yeah buddy that’s his own hair/That little faggot got his own jet airplane/That little faggot he’s a millionaire,” the guy mutters, while Knopfler’s guitar grinds out his irritation. The guitar turns delicate for the gentle “Why Worry,” a song that’s as soft as a sigh.  Side two, made up of four songs about men and war, is more ambitious and less successful. Knopfler practically whispers the lyric to “Brothers in Arms” but never turns out images that catch your eye; the music’s lovely, though, with the electric guitar cutting patterns in a soft-toned background. But no telling metaphors are found in this quartet of songs, and the music lacks the ache that made Knopfler’s recent soundtracks for Comfort and Joy and Cal so powerful.



Singer Mark Knopfler wrote the title track Brothers in Arms in 1982, in the midst of the Falklands War. The two-month conflict claimed the lives of 258 soldiers.

 In 2007, Knopfler released a new version of the track to mark the 25th anniversary of the conflict. All proceeds went to a programme to help veterans deal with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.


Knopfler wrote Money For Nothing – which mocks the rock star lifestyle – after hearing a “hard-hat type” complaining in a department store while MTV played in the background on a wall of TVs.



In 2007, Mötley Crüe bass player Nikki Sixx claimed that Money for Nothing was about his band’s outrageous lifestyle. He said had been told that the videos the man was grumbling about was theirs.


The album was recorded on the island of Montserrat, in the Caribbean, where Sting happened to be on holiday. He popped in to help out on Money For Nothing.



Although he has joint writing credits for the track, Sting only provided the opening refrain – pinched from his own Police hit Don’t Stand So Close to me – to which he sings “I want my MTV.”

 He was reported to be embarrassed that his song publishing company demanded the credit.


Drummer Terry Williams was replaced by Sting’s drummer Omar Hakim halfway through the album after producer Neil Dorfsman decided he wasn’t up to scratch. Hakim recorded the beat on all the tracks in two days although Williams’ drumming can still be heard in the iconic opening of Money For Nothing.



Weird Al Yankovic parodied the song for his movie UHF, mixing it with the theme tune to Beverly Hillbillies. Mark Knopfler gave permission for the spoof and insisted on playing guitar on the song.


Walk Of Life was written to celebrate buskers on the streets of London. The original video features a busker on the tube but it was changed for the US market to montage of sporting bloopers.



"So Far Away"
 
This song finds Dire Straits frontman Mark Knopfler lamenting an itinerant lifestyle that keeps him away from a loved one. Although he was on the road a lot (the album was recorded in Montserrat), the song is not autobiographical. "'So Far Away" is something I would want to apply to anybody," he told the BBC. "Quite apart from anything else, we are now a world of travellers and air travellers. Families are split up in different parts, all over the place, and it has relevance."



He added: "It was about conducting a relationship over a telephone, which is a joke. It can't really be done over a long period of time, because you both get exhausted with it. That was the basic idea."


 
The line, "I'm tired of making out on the telephone, 'cause you're so far away from me" hails back to a common element of the 1980s: the phone-sex line. Remember, it was before the Internet, kiddies. You had phone lines you could call that began with prefixes like 1-800, 1-900, and so on. They'd bill an outrageous price per minute, and you'd find yourself talking to a phone sex worker, or listening to an erotic recording, or even on a "party line" socializing with real, actual people. Then the bill would come in and you'd have to bluff the phone company that a phreaker hijacked your line and ran up that bill. Good times!


Billy Joel took on this topic in his song "Sometimes A Fantasy."


 
Because of the time when the album came out, Brothers in Arms was one of the first to be recorded in direct digital aimed at a CD release. The album was still released on vinyl as well anyway. This dual release strategy actually led to some discrepancies; half the tracks on the CD are longer than their LP equivalents.



"Money For Nothing"


This song is about rock star excess and the easy life it brings compared with real work. Mark Knopfler wrote it after overhearing delivery men in a New York department store complain about their jobs while watching MTV. He wrote the song in the store sitting at a kitchen display they had set up. Many of the lyrics were things they actually said.

 
Sting sings on this and helped write it (he and Knopfler are the credited writers). That's him at the beginning singing "I want my MTV." Sting did not want a songwriting credit, but his record company did because they would have earned royalties from it. They claimed it sounded very similar to a song Sting wrote for The Police: "Don't Stand So Close To Me."
  

The innovative video was one of the first to feature computer generated animation, which was done using an early program called Paintbox. The characters were supposed to have more detail, like buttons on their shirts, but they used up the budget and had to leave it as is. It won Best Video at the 1986 MTV Video Music Awards.



The video was directed by Steve Barron, who also directed the famous a-ha video for "Take On Me" and Thomas Dolby's "She Blinded Me With Science."


 
In the book I Want My MTV, various people who worked at the network explain that Dire Straits' manager asked the network what they could do to get on the network and break through in America. Their answer was: write a hit song and let one of the top directors make a video. Mark Knopfler took the directive to write an "MTVable song" quite literally, using the network's tagline in the lyrics. The song ended up sounding like an indictment of MTV, but Les Garland, who ran the network, made it clear that they loved the song and were flattered by it - hearing "I Want My MTV" on the radio was fantastic publicity even if there were some unfavorable implications in the lyrics.



Steve Barron was dispatched to do the video, and charged with the task of convincing Mark Knopfler, who hated videos, to do one that was groundbreaking. Barron says that Knopfler wasn't into the idea, but his girlfriend - an American - was at the pitch and loved the idea. Knopfler agreed (in part because he didn't have to appear in it), and Barron hired a UK production company called Rushes to work on it. Said Barron: "The song is damning to MTV in a way. That was an ironic video. The characters we created were made of televisions, and they were slagging off television. Videos were getting a bit boring, they needed some waking up. And MTV went nuts for it. It was like a big advertisement for them."




The line "I want my MTV" was the basis of the cable network's promotional campaign. They played clips of musicians saying, and often times, screaming the line between videos.


 
This was the first video played on MTV Europe. The network went on the air August 1, 1987, six years after MTV in the US.


 
The album version runs 8:26 with an extended outro. The single was cut down to 4:38.


 
In the US, this stayed at #1 for three weeks. It also won a Grammy in 1986 for best Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group.


 
Mark Knopfler played a Les Paul Junior plugged into a Laney amp on this track. Producer Neil Dorfsman recalled in Sound On Sound magazine May 2006: "We were going for a ZZ Top sound, but what we ended up getting was kind of an accident."


 

Twenty-five years after the song's release it was banned from public broadcast in Canada after one person complained about it being homophobic. The original version included a description of a singer as "that little faggot with the earring and the make-up" plus two other uses of the word "faggot," although a cleaned-up edition was made available, Oz-FM in Newfoundland played the first edition in February 2010 at 9:15 at night. The result was a single complaint and the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council ruled that the unedited version of the song was unacceptable for air play on Canadian radio stations because it "refers to sexual orientation in a derogatory way."




Knopfler has pointed out the song was written from the viewpoint of a stupid character who thinks musicians make their "money for nothing" and his stupidity is what leads him to make ignorant statements. Speaking in late 1985 to Rolling Stone the Dire Straits songwriter expressed his feelings about people who react angrily to the song. He said: "Apart from the fact that there are stupid gay people as well as stupid other people, it suggests that maybe you have to be direct. I'm in two minds as to whether it's a good idea to take on characters and write songs that aren't in the first person."




Common sense finally prevailed on August 31, 2011 when the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council put an end to the ban and allowed individual radio stations to once again decide for themselves whether to play the classic rock tune.


 
Mark Knopfler was once a reporter working on the Yorkshire Evening Post. He told Uncut magazine that his journalistic experience fed into this song. "I was reporting, verbatim, what a particular guy thought about music," he said. "I transcribed his words there and then. He was a meathead. To him being a rock star was easy, hence 'that ain't working.'"



"Walk Of Life"

Mark Knopfler wrote this song to celebrate the street buskers of London, hence the references to "Be-Bop-A-Lula" and "What'd I Say," two standards that might be part of a singer's repertoire in the mid-'80s.


 
The music video shown in America took a different approach: it showed sports bloopers. Stephen R. Johnson, a recent graduate of USC Film School, was the director. It was Mark Knopfler's idea to put sports in it, which was intercut with live footage. Knopfler's other directive was to avoid shooting him from the side to avoid the full effect of his nose.



This video did very well on MTV, but it was not the original. The first version of the clip, which was shown outside the US, was more true to the song, with footage of a busker in a subway (or as they call it in England, the tube). The sports-themed video was specifically aimed at American audiences, with footage of American teams.


 
This was the fourth single released from Brothers In Arms. It benefited from a catchy keyboard sound (played by Alan Clark)  which established the band on MTV and on Top 40 radio in America.


 
Before the lyrics kick in, Mark Knopfler does a few "who-hoo"s, which help create a whimsical vibe. When he spoke with the BBC in 1989, he expressed some woo remorse. "There's too many 'woos' at the beginning of 'Walk of Life,'" he said. "I heard it on the radio the other day and thought, Oh my God! What was I doing that for?"



"Why Worry"

Written by Mark Knopfler, this song finds him comforting a loved one in rather poetic terms:



But baby, just when this world seems mean and cold
Our love comes shining red and gold
And all the rest is by the way





It's almost a lullaby, as he turns the cold, cruel world into a place of tranquility.


 
This runs 8:31, with the last four minutes instrumental. When Mark Knopfler spoke with the BBC in 1989, he had second thoughts about this section. "The playout of 'Why Worry' seems to be a very pointless thing to me now, all that faffing around with pretty sounds," he said.


 
The Everly Brothers released this on their 1985 album Born Yesterday; Jennifer Warnes included it on her 2018 album Another Time, Another Place. She said: "Mark Knopfler understands the Everly Brothers and Ricky Nelson and all the American music, maybe more than a lot of Americans know it. He wrote this lovely, gentle song that the Everlys did, and I loved it. It's musical, it's intimate, it's loving."



"Brothers in arms"

This song was inspired by the Falklands War, which was going on when Dire Straits lead singer Mark Knopfler wrote the song. The Falklands War was a conflict between Argentina and the UK over islands off the coast of Argentina that each country claimed rights to. The islands are British territories, but in 1982 Argentina tried to reclaim one of the islands. Britain reclaimed their territories, but lost 258 soldiers in the conflict.


 
In this song, Mark Knopfler sings about a soldier who is dying on the battlefield, surrounded by his comrades, who remain by his side as he slips away. It's a look at the folly of war and the plight of those who fight them. "We've got just one world but we live in different ones," he told the BBC. "It's just stupid, it really is. We're just foolish to take part in anybody's war."


 
The title is something Knopfler's dad said. In discussing the Falklands War, he described the Russians and Argentinians as "Brothers In Arms," meaning they had similar ideologies. That phrase ended up being used as the title for the album.


 
In 2007, a new version of this track featuring Mark Knopfler was released to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Falklands War. Proceeds from the sale of the single went to a program that brought British veterans back to the site of the war in an effort to help them deal with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.


 
 Compared to the music video for "Money For Nothing," which was very modern for the time, very colourful and also very '80s, the video for "Brothers In Arms" is quite the opposite. It features sketchings of an ocean, a pendulum, soldiers, an island and the band playing as well as real footage of landscape and the band. This keeps the colors in black, white and gray with the exception of the end that is a colored sunset.

 

 


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15/10/2019 10:36 am  #2053


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 554.
Big Black...........................Atomizer   (1986)











Atomizer is the first full-length album released by the Illinois noise rock band Big Black.

 This is the band’s first recording since bassist Jeff Pezzati left in late 1984 to work more closely with his other group, Naked Raygun. Pezzati was replaced by Dave Riley, an audio engineer who worked closely with Parliament/Funkadelic.

 The album gained immediate notoriety due to its stark lyrics discussing the seedier, more disturbing aspects of human life – child sex abuse, corrupt cops, domestic abuse, volunteering at a slaughterhouse to kill animals for fun, or just growing up in a rural town and finding your only joy or entertainment is setting things on fire or fucking - so you get the bright idea to combine the two and see what happens.

.Atomizer was originally planned for release sometime in late 1985 – however, the band ran into some legal issues with the album cover, which originally featured Marvin the Martion.


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16/10/2019 8:46 pm  #2054


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 552.
Prefab Sprout.............................Steve McQueen   (1985)














This album was a decent listen if you like your music on repeat, fir me ten of the eleven tracks were dead samey, whether it's his vocals or maybe the way they all seem to have the same over textured feel about them I don't know.


McAloon writes some excellent verse although often verging on the maudlin side of life, taking each track as an individual entity, there wasn't a track that I hated, but taken the album as a whole I just didn't get what it was about, just too many sound-alikes, I reckon if a DJ wanted to do a mix of Steve McQueen he could probably drop the needle just about anywhere and nobody could tell,


They seemingly played the Dance Factory back in '84, now I used to go now and again not knowing who was on but wanting a bit of live music, and back then I was very partial to bit of "Lou Reed," now, if they had been on and their live set is anything like this album, fuck me I'd be climbing the walls or on meh toes pretty lively like,but deffo chewin' meh lip aff, as you all may know, when you have partaking, the last thing you need is slowwwwww  zzzzzzz.


Anyways, the only track that stood out for me and that I really enjoyed was "Faron Young," so that will be getting downloaded, but as for the rest, maybe some of the more mature posters will mind o' this, it was like when you left the arm up on your record player, it kept on playing the same record over and over ( please correct me if i'm wrang aboot this, old age sometimes mixes it up a little.)


This album wont be going into my collection.





Bits & Bobs;

They keep themselves to  themselves, but here’s a few facts about the strange tunesmiths . . . Prefab Sprout — the name. It doesn’t really mean anything, it’s a makey up.“l put two words together that didn’t mean anything because people would say, ‘What does it mean?’ l had other names at the time like Chrysalis Cognosci. I wouldn’t pick Prefab Sprout now because it would strike the wrong note.”


 As a young boy, Paddy studied at a seminary (he nearly became a priest) but he left when he knew that music was his real calling. He studied English at Newcastle Polytechnic and started playing in the pubs round Durham, with the first Prefab Sprout, who by all accounts were a rather raucous three piece.


 Paddy’s gone through some weird phases. At one point, he considered writing an album of songs that all had the same title but were numbered, 1, 2, 3 and so on . . . he also wanted to write a whole album about sport. None of these ideas came to complete ‘fruition’ — phew!


 At first, the Sprouts were turned down by every major record label, and at the time decided to set up their own small label. They had 1000 copies of the first single, ‘Lions In My Garden’ and released though their newly formed Candle Records label, which had slogans ice ‘ The Wax That Won’t Get On You Wick’.


 This led to a deal with local Kitchenware records. The first album ‘Swoon’ was released and everybody became truly astounded by Paddy’s clever wordplay and unusual melodies . . . or something. Anyway, everyone said it was truly fab, even if they didn’t have any hits!


 The next release was a lush album full of rather super tunes called ‘Steve McQueen’. Everyone squealed and held their hands up in delight and said it was even better than ‘Swoon’ . . . and they had a hit! ‘When Love Breaks Down’ whizzed up to the heady heights of the number 25 spot, and the Sprouts even appeared on ‘TOTP’. Hurrah!


 An album called ‘Protest Songs’ was due for release but it was pulled at the last moment and is still snugly entrenched in the tape store!


 After a long ‘lay off’, only it wasn’t because Paddy McAloon writes every day. they returned with shock, horror, a huge hit single. ‘The King of Rock ‘n’ Roll’ whizzed up into the top ten and gave the Sprouts a bit more recognition. The third album ‘From Langley Park To Memphis’ was another collection of meisterwerks and people started to talk about Paddy in hushed tones . . .

 The Sprouts have never been known as a rock ’n‘roll live outfit. ~ They haven’t played live since a tour of Japan in 1986 and their last appearance in Britain was one date at London’s Hammersmith Odeon, in February of that year. Paddy doesn’t even like going to see people play live!

 “I’ve never been to see anyone l couldn’t have lived without seeing, even if I’ve thoroughly enjoyed them. I can just put a record on and they live in my imagination! The air of mystery of never having seen Michael Jackson! I’d rather imagine him in Encino, wandering around with his animals and watching Fantasia in his private cinema. That’s better than anything l could ever see on stage.”

 At the moment Paddy’s working on Zorro The Fox, a soundtrack from an unwritten film. His imagination has also come up with The Jesse James Symphony, Moondog and Jordan — The Comeback. All songs devoted to Elvis Presley and telling the imaginary story of his life, his death and him landing on the moon . . . and suchlike.


 Paddy’s a bit skewy – hurrah!




 Though there is no band like Prefab Sprout, they do encapsulate British rock in the 1980s like no other. They doubled down on hooks like the Stone Roses, infused lyrics with wordy poetry like Morrissey and keenly bounced bass off of synth chords like New Order or the Pet Shop Boys.


 Fronting Prefab Sprout from the late 1970s onwards, Paddy McAloon was more keen than any of his contemporaries to inherit an esteemed history of jazz–informed pop songwriting from Stephen Sondheim and Paul McCartney. As he sings on the 1991 song "Paris Smith," McAloon wished to be the “Fred Astaire of words."


 And while the band’s 1985 album Steve McQueen never achieved the immediate fame of many of its peers’ work, the album’s legacy has steadily grown over three decades thanks in large part to its arresting tension between good old fashioned rock and roll and groundbreaking digital production.



Just like how the Beatles stretched the modern studio to its limits in the mid–’60s, Prefab Sprout knew it would need embrace the cutting edge technology of its time to get the most mileage out of its expert pop compositions. That’s where Thomas Dolby came in.

 Thomas Dolby first took a shine to Prefab Sprout in 1984 as part of a panel on BBC’s Roundtable, a program where DJs and popular musicians weighed in on new releases.


 By that point, Dolby had hit it big in North America. His single “She Blinded Me with Science” rocketed to the top of the US and Canadian charts in 1983 with the help of a video that proved popular on MTV.


 McAloon wanted a hit of Prefab Sprout’s own. Aligning with a tech savvy hitmaker must have seemed like a smart move, even if he was singing songs about bygone idols like George Gershwin and the American country music hitmaker Faron Young.


 Given the landscape in Britain at the time, the choice wasn’t all that strange. The like–minded Scritti Politti used an array of drum machines and digital synths including the Lindrum, the Roland TR-808, Yamaha's DX7 the Fairlight CMI, and the Oberheim Systemizer to make sugary sweet and decadently funky pop music as complex as Prefab Sprout’s own.


 Additionally, given that the most successful British groups of the era were synth pop acts like The Human League, Depeche Mode, and Duran Duran, it makes sense that an old school rocker like McAloon would sense that a splash of electronics could make his music more commercially marketable.


 Despite Steve McQueen’s run in the Top 40 of the UK charts, McAloon would publicly lament what he perceived to be poor commercial performance. Dolby apparently admonished McAloon about this. And within just the three years between Steve McQueen and its follow–up, the album sold 900,000 copies worldwide, better than any of Dolby’s own albums had performed.


 Steve McQueen has not endured because of its sales or chart success, though. It sustains thanks to masterful pop songs equally thick with forlorn romance and earworms, skillfully arranged by Dolby.


 Dolby’s innovative, nuanced production used synthesizers and the Fairlight CMI to paint McAloon’s McCartney–esque, dense compositions in water colors at a moment when Kate Bush and Jan Hammer were using the same tools like spray paint. The Fairlight CMI was a groundbreaking and infamously unreliable sampling computer best explained by Herbie Hancock on an episode of Sesame Street.







 Dolby Hears the SproutIt may have been Dolby’s self–identification as a songwriter that drew him to “Don’t Sing,” the single from Prefab Sprout’s first record, Swoon, played on that BBC program. It’s a gnarled song, with dense lyrics that sprawl past the margins of 4/4, forcing unexpected sequences of two and three beat phrases.


 Soon after the programme, Prefab Sprout’s manager and Kitchenware Records head Keith Armstrong asked if Dolby would be interested in producing the band’s next record. The band had no demos to show, so Dolby was invited up to the McAloon County Durham family home in Northeast England.


 There, in a small bedroom in a remote former rectory, McAloon sat with Dolby and a tape recorder as he played Dolby around 40 songs he had written, pulling sheets of lyrics out from stacks under his bed.


 Dolby took back these tape recordings and selected his favorites — some of them already seven or eight years old — for what would become Steve McQueen.


 In the Studio
McAloon’s songwriting involved strumming a guitar until he felt the time had come for the next line of lyrics, leading to phrases with an awkward number of bars. Dolby saw his role on Steve McQueen mainly as the “the editor, the filter.” Only once that work was done could he “add a little fairy dust of [his] own with the keyboards.”


 Using studio technology as part of the songwriting process was the ace hidden in Dolby’s sleeve. His savvy with music technology earned him fame with a mad scientist “synth boffin” persona employed on his debut album The Golden Age of Wireless.


 That integration of studio and songwriting was old hat to Dolby. His early years saw him building his own Powertran Transcendent 2000 monosynth from a kit and recording his own compositions on a Tascam Portastudio with a Boss Dr. Rhythm, presaging this century’s wave home electronic producers and songwriters by at least two decades.


 Dolby favored the Fairlight CMI and a Jupiter 8 on the record, the McAloon brothers later recalling that Dolby was not a “DX7 man.” He worked closely with the band’s other singer, Wendy Smith, to add her parts, often doubling them with her voice sampled through the Fairlight — one of the most distinctive and defining textures on the record.


 No One Planned It, Took It for Granted
Paddy McAloon knew nothing about recording and was insecure as an arranger. “I’m only really happy when I’m writing songs,” he told Jim Reid in 1985, “even the arrangement is a labour to me.”


 Dolby choreographed the band’s approach to performing and arranging the songs closely. Dolby took apart and reconstructed McAloon's chord sequences, with a mind to layer sound with different instruments and textures.


 He would examine McAloon’s piano phrasings and edit his fingering note by note. If McAloon was playing a full guitar chord high up on the fretboard, he would instruct him to only voice the bottom strings, leaving the rest to another keyboard or two.


 McAloon, then self-conscious about his singing, recalled being coached closely. Dolby told him to emphasize the lighter, more breathy aspect of his voice, with a few allowances for harshness on “Faron Young” and “Goodbye Lucille,” called "Johnny Johnny" when released as a single.

 These were old songs Dolby selected — holdovers from the band’s early incarnation as a pub rock band — retaining something of their rock n roll origins but made wide screen by Dolby’s production.


 The truckin’ pastiche guitar riff that serves as the main motif on “Faron Young” is given doses of heavy reverb for a cinematic quality during key moments. Dolby used the Fairlight on this track to imitate a banjo, performing credible banjo roll patterns to uncanny effect in the song’s intro.


 On the opening to “Goodbye Lucille #1,” the gentle four–note descending guitar line that opens the track is doubled by a palm muted guitar — a simple, thoughtful detail that adds a world of texture to the moment.
 The rehearsals paid off and Dolby recalls that once the mics were set the album “basically mixed itself.” Dolby’s own instrumental contributions were the embellishments and textures, added after the basic tracks were recorded.


 McAloon would have a few other artistic triumphs, like Jordan: The Comeback or I Trawl The Megahertz. He would finally score a top ten hit with Steve McQueen’s follow up, From Langley Park to Memphis.


 But Steve McQueen stands alone as a high watermark for ‘80s production and is a stunning example of the power of collaboration in which the traditionalist songwriting values of Paddy McAloon found a happy, transcendent marriage with the empathetic and technologically-literate ears of Thomas Dolby.


 Paddy was thrilled with the results. While talking about Dolby's production work on her 1985 album Dog Eat Dog, Joni Mitchell was quoted as having said that Thomas, “has a tendency to interior-decorate you out of your songs." Paddy instead claimed that Dolby had “made my songs into little palaces.”


I'm with Joni



 Dance Factory Dundee: February 26th, 1984

 




“‘THAT single! Such complicated beauty reeks of Wall Of Voodoo and Steely Dan unsmoothed and unAmericanised, with Stevie Wonder harmonica and a tight jumble of words and rhythms clicking and ticking into strange places. Much too complicated for the charts but a jewelled movement in the right, crazy direction.





“That name! A joke at the expense of image and the ridiculous pretension of the pop pose. Paddy McAloon, ah ’tis a fine Irish name, plays harmonica and guitar. Martin plays bass and Wendy goes “Oooooo”. Perverse, amusing, a sliding butchery of what’s going down in the mind of pop.




“Paddy is befringed with a floppy mop of hair. Wendy tucks her blonde tresses under a cap and wears dungarees. There is a slight resemblance to a subversive, off-world Thompson Twins – No, that’s a dire insult, it’s only on a visual level. This music was always going to be difficult to play live with ridiculous musical gear changes and rhythmic tricks their anxious appeal.




“Only a shadow of the recorded sound, they battle with their ideas and try to make them live. Plain wacky this, you don’t know where you are. Good. But they’ve got to watch they are very clever and that can lead to an elitism that would be a mistake. Clever, not clever-clever, is the way it should be. The beginning was excruciating, the band were hesitant, the feedback shrieked from various points, and the vocals non-existent. (The sound man is currently undergoing treatment). It was well over halfway through before Wendy’s cooing vocals were audible, just in time to save Paddy’s harsh voice from faltering along with some highly dubious guitar chords.




“The last three numbers saved the night. ‘Hallelujah’ was actually tuneful and light, the superb ‘Don’t Sing’ almost got near to the record and I loved it just as much in its rough state.’ Lions’ went right off the track but still worked. With an apology for ‘not being too lively tonight’ they left. I think they care. I think they could be very important.




“So the gulf between the record and the performance is massive but somehow it didn’t really matter. And that’s the wonder of Prefab Sprout.”




Bob Flynn, Melody Maker, March 10th 1984



 

Dundee University 18th October 1985.








"Desire As"



Frontman and songwriter Paddy McAloon, (from Mojo magazine October 2009): "There's a lot of plain speaking in my lyrics, and once or twice a few depth charges, (quotes from this song): 'There are six things on my mind/You're no longer one of them.' That's written from a point of abject confusion; it's cold but more a put-down of the person saying it."



"When Love Breaks Down"

 
Prefab Sprout were a UK pop/rock group formed in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne in 1982. This song, in which their frontman and songwriter Paddy McAloon recalls the romantic folly of his youth, was their first of seven UK Top 40 hits.


 
In an interview with the October 2009 edition of Mojo magazine, McAloon was critical of one of this song's lines. He said: "I became very conscious of other people making hit records and I wanted to be there with Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Scritti Politti. It would be nice to have a song the milkman could whistle, I like the glory of language, the gag. Some don't work out, like on 'When Love Breaks Down' - which I'd always heard as uptempo - 'absence makes the heart lose weight.' It seems prissy, glib, too thought out."


 
The album was titled Steve McQueen in all countries apart from the United States, where it was called Two Wheels Good, due to a legal conflict with the estate of American actor Steve McQueen.


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18/10/2019 11:00 am  #2055


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 555.
Suzanne Vega.........................Suzanne Vega   (1985)















Born in Califoria, and growing up in New York, Vega inhabits musical qualities of both enviroments. From the West Coast she derives a bohemian folksy flair, while from the urban East comes a streetwise lyicism.



With former Patti Smith guitarist Lenny Kaye at the helm, Suzanne Vega was recorded in 1985. The UK market quickly took her to their hearts, via the jaunty single "Marlene On The Wall." Here the observer becomes the observed, as a portrait of Marlene Dietrich watches Vega bed a procession of lovers.



The albums heart is defined by a timeless fable "The Queen And The Soldier," which recalls Sandy Denny's epic balladeering. By contrast, the adjoining "Knight Moves," has snarling stanzas not unlike those of Husker Du or Kristen Hersh


I dont know why the album 554 was 1986 and 555 is 1985?

Just going by the book pages,so will see what the next page brings.


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18/10/2019 1:15 pm  #2056


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Always liked Suzanne Vega - chilled out inoffensive, second album better though.

 

18/10/2019 2:49 pm  #2057


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Mekons went a bit to fuck with the album from the book, although the sentiments supposedly behind some of the lyrics were sound. 


See all the polis lined up here: they weren't polis. Many were army, dressed in unnumbered polis gear.



and



Thatcher had, of course, recently given the police and armed forces a significant pay rise.

But using your own army on your own people: something far wrong there. A bit like Spain today, I reckon.

Prefab Sprout: I bought the tape of that, but have to say music was beginning to go a bit bland, for me, at that point in the 'eighties.

 

19/10/2019 10:23 pm  #2058


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 553.
Mekons..................................Fear And Whiskey   (1985)














No' even gonna comment or even look at any social media with regards to futba after that shit show today, god bless music................a great bunker to hunker down in and let the world pass you by.



So, Fear and Whiskey, an absolute topper of an album in my humbles and has there ever been as good an opening verse to an album as:

I was out late the other night
Fear and whiskey kept me going
I swore somebody held me tight
But now there's just no way of knowing


 I don't think so, if as Pat reckons "Mekons went a bit to fuck with the album" having never listened to the Mekons/Mekons (What are they actually called?) I for one can't wait to explore their back catologue, I've read people comparing them to X, The Clash, The Pogues and the Dictators which I must admit acts is a magnet rather than puting this punter aff, and I can certainly hear the Clash in the opening track and Hard to Be Human Again, and Abernant does have a hint of The Pogues, but being honest I feel that's pedancy, this album is what it is, a fantastic, mixed up, messy, Robbie Nielson formation of an album, but that actually works superbly in my humbles.


I have never been one of these precious people who derides country music, and if this is part alt-country, cow punk or fuckin' blue grass I don't give a fuck, it certainly got under my skin, the more I play it the more I love it, not in the sense that it wears me down or ureka i've just got it, I just feel downright comfortable and at home with this.



I haven't got any favourite track at the moment, but I would thoroughly recommend this album to each and everyone who looks in on this thread, this album will be going into my vinyl collection ( If I can source a vinyl copy, seemingly thin on the ground)




Bits & Bobs;




Lester Bangs once wrote, "The Mekons are the most revolutionary group in the history of rock 'n' roll," and although he wrote it tongue in cheek, that doesn't mean he was wrong. Thoroughly uncompromising, creatively restless, at once witty and profoundly cynical, and seemingly incapable of repeating themselves, the Mekons are one of the few bands from the first wave of British punk who not only never turned their back on their guiding ideals, but clung to them with greater tenacity over time. (This helps explain why their audience, while relatively small, is unfailingly loyal.) The Mekons were (and remain) as strongly political as any band short of Crass, but their Marxism came from the perspective of the guy at the bar, not unintelligent but rarely academic. Since 1977, the Mekons have followed a musical path that has taken them through punk ("Never Been in a Riot"), noisy experimentalism (The Quality of Mercy is not Strnen), synthesizer-based avant-pop (Devil's, Rats and Piggies: A special message from Godzilla), fractured country (Fear And Whiskey), rock & roll (The Mekons Rock 'N' Roll), electronics (Me), and several brands of folk (Natural: Ancient and Modern, and Jura) funny I've got a nice bottle of single malt called Jura (Journey), and for all their sonic shapeshifting, they've always managed to sound like the Mekons, brave contrarians who've gone too far to stop, at every turn.




The Mekons were formed in Leeds, Yorkshire, England in 1976 by a handful of art students at the University of Leeds. The original lineup featured singers Andy Corrigan and Mark "Chalkie" White, guitarists Tom Greenhalgh and Kevin Lycett, bassist Ros Allen, and drummer Jon Langford. Taking their name from a villainous alien in the U.K. adventure comic Dan Dare, the Mekons' witty and shambolic brand of punk earned them a reputation in Leeds (where another idiosyncratic political band, Gang Of Four, was incubating), and they were one of the first bands to sign with the independent Fast Product label. Their debut single, "Never Been in a Riot" b/w "32 Weeks," was released in 1978; the A-side was a sarcastic response to the Clash's's "White Riot," while the flip got its title from the amount of time one could stay on unemployment. A second single for Fast, "Where Were You" b/w "I'll Have to Dance Then (On My Own)," appeared later the same year, and as the Mekons began receiving more press attention, they were approached by Virgin Records, which signed the group to a recording deal. The Mekons' first full-length album, The Quality Of Mercy Is Not Strmen, was released in 1979, and traded the shambolic punk of their earliest sides for a more brittle and experimental sound. After the album was released, Ros Allen left the Mekons and would later form Delta 5. After the release of a double-7" set, Teeth, that saw the band adding fiddles and electronics to their attack, the Mekons parted ways with Virgin, and struck a deal with the independent Red Rhino label. Their second album, Devils, Rats and Piggies: A specil message from Godzilla was also known simply as Mekons, and found them further pursuing the experimental sounds of Teeth. It was the last album featuring Andy Corrigan, and the band's initial lineup split after a gig in New York City on New Year's Eve 1980/81. Fittingly, the Mekons's next full-length, 1982's The Mekons Story (aka It Falleth Like Gentle Rain From Heaven: The Mekons Story) was a purposefully ragged collection of live tracks, studio outtakes, demos, and other odds and ends that served as a tongue in cheek history of their first five years. Following the release of 1983's The English Dancing Master, a challenging fusion of dance rhythms, dub-wise sound sculpting, and traditional British folk, the band took time off from recording to regroup.




When the Mekons returned in 1985 with the album Fear And Whiskey, they were a very different band. Tom Greenhalgh and Jon Longford were the only holdovers from the original group, with the latter moving from drums to guitar and vocals. Dick Taylor, one of the founders of the Pretty Things and an early member of the Rolling Stones, was on lead guitar, while Lu Edmonds (who had worked with Public Image Ltd) was on bass, Steve Goulding (of the Rumour) handled drums, and Suzie Honeyman played violin. The band's new sound was scrappy rock & roll with a pronounced country influence, and the lyrics were full of boozy contemplation along with the tribulations of daily life. The 1986 album The Edge of the World(which, like Fear And Whiskey, was released on the band's own Sin Records label) followed in similar fashion, and added Sally Timms on vocals and Rico Bell on accordion to the mix. This core of musicians would dominate the Mekons' recordings and performances from this point on, and these albums earned enthusiastic reviews from critics in the U.K. and North America, as well as winning them a new audience among underground rock fans with a taste for roots music.


 Fear and Whiskey  So it turns out this is a stone-cold masterpiece. Who knew? It's been out of print for years, but now that it's back, it's being called everything from "a good set of drinking songs" to "the seed that sprouted alt-country" to "the greatest rock album in history." Fear and Whiskey was the first great statement of "shambolic punk" band the Mekons, and yes, it is as great as all their rabid fans have always said (though "the greatest rock album in history" is, of course, a bit of a stretch).


 As I was digging through my rock library to figure out what defines a classic, I found an essay by Steve Wynn of the Dream Syndicate, listing his top criteria for what makes a great rock album. The most important factor, he argued, was "the potential of falling apart at any moment": not just that the recording sounds rough around the edges, but that the entire band could have careened off the rails at any time. The Mekons, circa 1985, fit that description wonderfully. Though this album took months of planning, Fear and Whiskey sounds as chaotic and spontaneous as any great night at a dance hall full of the reek of stale beer. Just like a live show, almost all you can hear through the record's tinny sound are Steve Goulding's drums-- pounding out a dance beat crossed with a military tattoo-- and Susie Honeyman's fiddle, soaring above, pretty but ragged. Singer/guitarists Tom Greenhalgh and Jon Langford bellow, cheer and grumble through the noise. They sing about booze, they sing about politics, and most of all, they sing about despair: Greenhalgh opens "Chivalry" with, "I was out late the other night/ Fear and whiskey kept me going," while the heroic tune from the violin keeps him upright.


 But let's move past the drinking and look at what it stands for: failure and camaraderie. The Mekons were born in '77 but were all but defunct by the mid-80s; they reunited to play benefit shows for miners during the strike of '84-85. As "non-aligned lefties," the band raged against the Thatcher administration, and watched the suffering of miners who were on strike for a year and then went back to work in defeat. But against that backdrop, Fear and Whiskey doesn't so much as stumble. Every disaster turns into a victory anthem, from Greenhalgh and Langford shouting through "Hard to Be Human Again," to "Abernant 1984/85," which is a glorious waltz no matter how bleak the lyrics ("They seek to destroy us/ How much more is there left to lose?").


 The music is a mess of influences united on the bones of punk music. The Mekons always subscribed to the "anything goes" rules of Britain's "Class of '77," and Fear and Whiskey is their most famous example: this was the record where they started to assimilate country music. It was a radical move in mid-80s Britain, not least because of the right-wing politics that were associated with the style. Musicologists have labelled this the father of alt-country, that bastard offspring of indie rock and country/western-- though for as much as you hear it on "Darkness and Doubt" (complete with a John Wayne reference), or the cover of Hank Williams' hit "Lost Highway," country is just one of the styles jammed in here, along with English folk, Leeds punk, and whatever else was at hand. Anyone who expects scenic Americana will stop short at the second song, "Trouble Down South," a weird mini-drama that would bring a lesser album to its knees: Ken Lite narrates some kind of a military advance over a reggae-inflected drum machine and a wheezing accordion, while soprano Jaqui Callis struggles to hit her highest notes. As far as it fits here at all, it's to force the listener to accept that the Mekons are ready and willing to do whatever they want.



 No matter how scattershot the first few songs sound, the second half of the album justifies everything. With a "proper" band assembled, these last five songs were "recorded and mixed one fine spring day in 1985," and they make up one of the most spontaneous, exciting and perfect album sides ever. For fourteen minutes, from "Flitcraft" to "Lost Highway," the Mekons don't touch the ground. This is music that is effortlessly, spontaneously great, with a massive beat that sweeps along grim lyrics like, "We know that for many years there's been no country here."



 But it's right near the end that they play the crowning song, the most perfect part of the album: "Last Dance," a pop song that sounds like it had never been played before that day but where every note falls in place, down to that throwaway guitar solo and Honeyman's beautiful fiddle, so bright it could make you want to cry. The narrator sings about the end of the night, when the music's winding down and it's time to search the room for someone to take home. The lyrics are resigned to failure, but then there are two lines in the middle-- "So beautiful, you were waltzing/ Little frozen rivers all covered in snow"-- sung by a man whose desire stretches his capacity for eloquence: he could have just seen the woman he'll marry. And he probably goes home alone.



 The Mekons didn't stand on the brink of collapse because they chose to; they accepted the knowledge that everything could be ripped from their hands. The Thatcher administration could declare war on the people; the miners could lose the strike. You could get one great night out of hundreds of bad ones, and for those fleeting moments you grab whatever you can-- even if it's just a handful of rowdy old songs.


 Fear, Whiskey and Punk Rock: The Story Behind the Kick-Ass Mekons Doc A new documentary on the veteran first-wave punk/country band charts a long, strange career

 Worth a look if you get the chance.




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Clarks Bar Dundee, 19/08/2014, The Mekons with Robbie Fulks perform "Millionaire". This gig was the last night of their highlands and islands tour.







I thought I'd never heard The Mekons before, but I came across this ........I never knew!
   






 

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22/10/2019 10:32 am  #2059


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 556.
The Pogues..........................Rum, Sodomy, & The Lash   (1985)













The Pogues finest hour here.


The cover of the album is taken from the Romantic-era painting by Theodore Géricault named The Raft of the Medusa with the men aboard the raft’s faces replaced with that of the band members, 


The album’s title is taken from a quotation attributed to Winston Churchill: “Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash.”


The title was suggested by drummer Andrew Ranken, who said “it seemed to sum up life in our band”


.  Lots of great songs with a wide variety, though the whole thing has of course that Irish folk thing going.   I like this because it mixes up upbeat numbers with slower tempo ballads.   The instrumentation sounds fresh and clear (and well recorded with kudos to producer Elvis Costello), while the lyrics are positively brilliant for the most part.   The rare vocal turn on "I'm A Man You Don't Meet Everyday" from bassist and future mrs. and ex-mrs. Costello (as well as future mrs. Andy Rourke) Cait O'Riordan is a stand out but 8 minute closer "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is the crown jewel.


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23/10/2019 11:41 pm  #2060


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 554.
Big Black...........................Atomizer   (1986)













This is an album that I can't say is comparible with anything I've heard before, musically it draws you in, but lyrically some of the tracks made me want to switch it off initially, this is a very intriguing offering that after a few plays I've come to the conclusion that for me at least it wasn't championing some of the more lurid pictures that the lyrics portray, but more "look guys this shit is happening, and I for one aint gonna duck it, listen in "


As I said I loved the musicianship, and I've always been a sucker for the precision of the old Roland drum machine setting the beat for most of these tracks, although this is not my normal cuppa I did enjoy this one, even the six minute "Kerosene" didn't fuck me off as much as usual. The opening track did take a few plays to understand, but the rest of the tracks I enjoyed tremendously.


Trying to get some bits & bobs about this band was a bit of an eye-opener, never type Big Black into your browser , although I've always thought of myself as "been around the block a few times" the suggestions I got were mindboggling both in the male, female and also the gender neutral, so the bits & bobs may be a tad shorter than usual.


This album wierdly enough I've taken a considerable liking to, but the thing is, is it a platter I'd play in public? to guests? to my kids? I think the answer is most likey no to all of the above, so this album wont be going into my vinyl collection but will be downloaded as a case of urgency to play on my I pod, and anything I can blast it out on with my earphones in.




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Big Black was one of the most important Chicago punk bands of the 1980s. They are one of the Big Four and released a bevy of albums and EPs before breaking up in 1987. Fronted by Steve Albini and lead on guitar by Naked Raygun founder Santiago Durango with Naked Raygun's Jeff Pezatti on bass, and later Dave Riley on bass after Pezzati left the band due to the pressures of touring and recording with Raygun.


 Big Black was very often hard bass driven and heavy, aggressive, with an industrial edge and used a drum-machine, and Albini along with Naked Raygun were very much responsible not only for Chicago's founding punk sound, but also for influencing the early industrial music genre born in the Midwest primarily in Chicago and Detroit around the same time. While they are recognized for the dawn of punk music in Chicago and its original, unconventional sound - contributing nothing like what came out of New York, London or the West but instead an entirely unique unconventional approach to punk - they are less mentioned for in part influencing/creating a whole new genre of music simultaneously that became popular later on during the 1990s with the likes of producers such as Trent Reznor and also influenced bands like The Cure, Killing Joke, and many other New Wave groups, and even the Seattle alternative grunge explosion. Among a slew of other genres including punk, noise-rock, post-hardcore, etc., Big Black could also be labeled as pre-industrial. With the use of a drum machine and a commanding sound that left audiences numb, they were a crucial predecessor to the burgeoning industrial music genre, producing music and results that was far beyond the groups that would go on to adopt industrial like Ministry, Nine Inch Nails and Erasure.


 After disbanding in 1987, Albini went on to start Rapeman and later Shellac, as well as becoming a mega engineer, producing the likes of Nirvana (In Utero), Sonic Youth, The Pixies (Surfer Rosa), and many others.





"Jordan, Minnesota"


 from the liner notes of Atomizer:


"You can’t think about it, really, because if you do then you go crazy, stark gibbering spitting and pissing in your pants crazy, so you don’t think about it. but once in a while you do think about it, and there’s all this weird shit going on and you can’t believe it can all really be like this. you think of all the bad, bad things you do to yourself out of some weird need. you go places, bad places, to fulfill some gnawing need, and you do ugly things to yourself and other people not because of the ugliness–well, sometimes because of the ugliness, i guess–but usually because there’s something else there and you’d do it no matter what. there are people who do. no matter what. they fuck their children, for shit’s sake. a whole town. bus drivers, school teachers, cops, storekeepers, housewives, little boys, little girls. very little, they play games with it, like very special hide-and-seek, and very special spin the bottle and very special poker, and every day the little boys have to get up and walk to the bus stop with the daddy who mouth raped them the night before, and they have to get on the bus with the bus driver who rubbed his shit in their hair, and say “yes maam” to the lady who made them lick her the night before, and then they have to go home, you know, where daddy and mommy have been making martinis for the little get together later on, and go hide under the covers where they know they’ll be found anyway and day in and day out for the rest of their motherfucking lives and then they grow up and they have babies and like i said, you don’t think about it because you go crazy."


   What have the artists said about the song?

 In an interview with Evelyn Morris for LISTEN which focused on Shellac’s relationship with gender issues and feminism, Steve Albini specifically addressed an number of his songs, including “Jordan, Minnesota”:



This song, inspired by news reports of a purported child sex abuse ring in the town of Jordan Minnesota, might be the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever had to own up to. Read the news reports of the day, and they all took at face value the preposterous accounts of an ambitious prosecutor, who groomed and falsified testimony from children as young as three or four. They painted a hellscape where children were regularly raped and traded between adults as sex objects. There was a round of scurrilous prosecutions and eventually some poor son of a bitch was scapegoated off to prison, but the whole thing was a sham. None of it happened. It fit the national mania at the time to find child sex predators, and it fit my personal pretension that all of us, all of humanity, is capable of both the most elevated and most depraved acts imaginable. I am deeply sorry I was duped, and if this song perpetuates the impression that these people were actually doing these things, then it’s caused harm, and I’m sorry for that as well. There is literally no way I can make up for that.




"Passing Complexion"



Racial passing occurs when a person classified as a member of one racial group is also accepted as a member of a different racial group. A black person with light complexion might pass as white in certain situations to afford a certain privilege or avoid discrimination.


 What have the artists said about the song?From the Pig Pile liner notes:



Nowadays we can see talk show panels comprised of people who have to tell people they’re black because they’re pale, don’t look like the “black” archetype, and therefore miss out on all the racism they’re entitled too. If someone can be “black” by proclamation, then the term is as meaningless now as it was in the 1920’s.




"Big Money"


 Written about abuse of power in the police force.from the liner notes of Atomizer:



"Greed that manifests itself in laziness. a cop who sleeps in his car. a cop who goes into “bad” neighborhoods for recreation. a cop who uses his position as a bludgeon."




"Kerosene"


 From the Atomizer liner notes:



"In small towns, there are few forms of amusement. two prominent ones are easy sex and arson. When the more simple exercises lose their bang, new combinations develop.



Any similarity between the rhythm patterns used and Led Zeppelin drumbeats is entirely appropriate."





"Bad Houses"

 Written about a man who frequents whorehouses and the sickening disgust he feels for himself as a result.

 from the liner notes of Atomizer:

 “we do things, bad things, and go places, bad places, even when the thrill is seldom worth the degradation. maybe we need the degradation, maybe we associate it with the thrill, and after a while, they become inseperable. then the thrill becomes secondary.”



"Fists of Love"



 A lovely little tune about domestic violence.

 from the liner notes of Atomizer:


 “take expression of emotion to its physical end. until the expressions take on meanings of their own. they become almost rituals in their gravity, fist fucking, wife-beating, whatever.”


 In an interview with Evelyn Morris for LISTEN which focused on Shellac’s relationship with gender issues and feminism, Steve Albini specifically addressed an number of his songs, including “Fists of Love”:




"We’ve all known people in relationships where there was a kind of wildness, whether sexual or not, that would appear to an observer to be violent, but within the context of the relationship, everything was part of the fun. My wife, for example, would once in a while slap me or another friend in the face, not out of anger, but because it was maybe the funniest way to conclude a sentence."



"There are also aspects of sexual relationships that, while consensual and “enjoyed” by everyone involved, are frankly appalling on face value. Toys, bondage and light dominance are the vanilla wafers of this behaviour, but in my circle of friends choking, punching, penetration with fists and objects, cutting, branding, suturing etc. all made appearances. The dark side of this is that once behaviour like that enters your ken, the other kind of fisticuffs, the kind used to exert dominance, cause harm or exact revenge loses some of its context because it isn’t unique."



"For a lot of people, squares in pure vanilla relationships for example, nobody gets hit, nobody gets tied up, nothing weird ever happens. In that context anything to the left of standard banging is de facto evil or criminal and nothing more needs to be said. That isn’t true in our circles, so the hinge of every relationship is consent. Not willingness, that can be engineered or manipulated, but consent. Two people who’ve been up for days on crank or crazy on pills can both be willing to do something, but if the situation has been engineered to exploit that, it isn’t consensual."



"If there is an underlying power relationship, say bandleader to side player, manager or producer to artist, promoter/booker/club owner to band etc. then conditions may prevent the concept of consent from applying. If you agree to have sex with someone because he could ruin your career otherwise (or take your children or leave you homeless or cause you any of a million smaller consequences), then willingness isn’t consent, it’s the product of fear or coercion."




"Stinking Drunk"

 A song about falling off the wagon.

 From the liner notes of Atomizer:


 “if you haven’t been for a while (a long while), then the reasons you quit lose focus, you forget the sensations that used to be all-important, then curiosity-overcomes you.”



"Bazooka Joe"


 A song written from the perspective of a guy getting a traumatized soldier to go into some sort of dirty work for him by pretending to be his friend.

 from the liner notes of Atomizer:


 “joe comes back from the great war very different, he has done nothing but kill and watch death for many long months, he has trouble adjusting until a friend suggests a new line of work, compatible with joe’s new skills.

 Part of the drum track is an M1 carbine being fired in a field exercise, by a guy named joe."



"Cables (Live)"



A live version of “Cables” from the Bulldozer 12" EP closes out Atomizer. According to Steve Albini’s liner notes, the track was recorded “at the only benefit gig I’ve ever heard of where the club owner insisted on taking his standard cut from the door.”


 What have the artists said about the song?from the liner notes of the Bulldozer EP:



"these guys in montana would go to the slaughterhouse after school and watch the cattle die for entertainment. they used to describe the prods, hammers, cables and hooks with a kind of hobbyist’s fascination. sometimes they helped out.

 from Atomizer:



"our interests in death, force and domination can change the way we think, make us seek out new forms of entertainment.” ever been in a slaughterhouse?"



Found this interview with Steve Albini quite interesting!







 


 


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24/10/2019 4:06 pm  #2061


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

I'd ignored, or probably dismissed Big Black in the 'eighties, firstly because they are from the US, and secondly I probably heard snippets here and there which didn't particularly impress me.
And I also though they were Black Flag for some reason back then too.....
How foolish!

Anyway, I Googled "Big Black Atomizer" (there's the safe route, A/C) and found this besides being able to listen to 
entire album on YouTube........... it's a 1930's Black Flag Vintage Atomizer Bug Spray:

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Now, the public internet wasn't around 33 years ago, so I'm assuming Steve Albini and Co must have seen a tin of this somewhere.

Jordan, Minnesota is a great opener, and every track thereafter has fucking noisy qualities I enjoy. Fists of Love and Bazooka Joe are particular favourites.

Aye, it's a racket, just like I like it. And the lyrics? I never bother too much about them, even although they are miserable. Often the more miserable, the better, but I think Albini and guys who write angry, outlandish lyrics don't always feel that way.

In fact, I'm happy to think they do it for the laughs, or simply to offend. Albini's next band were called 'Rapeman' after all. Which led to to looking up why he called them that

So thank you again, A/C, for this thread and on this occasion bringing Big Black back to my attention. 

 

24/10/2019 10:36 pm  #2062


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Thanks for your comments Pat, and interesting stuff about the Atomizer , but how come I feel you're moving ever closer to this





God Bless The U.S of A 

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25/10/2019 10:07 am  #2063


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 557.
Kate Bush.....................Hounds Of Love   (1985)










Hounds of Love is the fifth studio album by singer, songwriter and producer Kate Bush. Widely considered her magnum opus, it lit another rocket under Bush’s career (following the "she's gone mad" response of her previous record) and went onto finally break the US market alongside becoming her best-selling album.



 Split across 2 discs, the album incorporates 2 very different sections. Side 1, titled “Hounds of Love”, features all 4 singles and threads its 5 songs together through a loose theme of love. Side 2, however, is an entirely different scenario. Containing Bush’s first and most praised conceptual piece, “The Ninth Wave” details a dark tale of a woman lost at sea, entering a dream sequence as she awaits rescue.


 The first to be recorded in Bush's own home studio, the album is a drastic departure from The Dreaming. Featuring more honed production and techniques, it allowed Bush to leave the bustle of London and retreat back into the countryside, away from the grips of her label EMI. Instead of crowded cityscapes, songs were written gazing across scenery and allowed the harsh "mankind's screwing things up" energy, to depart in favour of a more positive one.

 For the London 2012 Olympics Closing Ceremony, Bush was asked to perform "Running Up That Hill". However, she declined and instead remixed the song for the ceremony. However, she went on to perform this version – along with “Hounds of Love”, “Cloudbusting” and the entire “The Ninth Wave” suite – in 2014 as part of the Before the Dawn live residency and later released on the late 2016 live album of the same name.


Kate Bush double album , will give it a go, always willing to be surprised.

I think our Patrone will be happy with this one


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26/10/2019 9:58 am  #2064


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

arabchanter wrote:

Thanks for your comments Pat, and interesting stuff about the Atomizer , but how come I feel you're moving ever closer to this





God Bless The U.S of A 

Too far!
 

 

27/10/2019 9:04 pm  #2065


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

PatReilly wrote:

arabchanter wrote:

Thanks for your comments Pat, and interesting stuff about the Atomizer , but how come I feel you're moving ever closer to this





God Bless The U.S of A 

Too far!
 

Sorry bud' but I thought you might be getting caught up in the yankee doodle dandy razamatazz of  "Ogrensville" and if you were I wouldn't have any truck with you. I may be out of order here but I think the Ogrens might well have just been the right thing for United, they've ploughed more money into the club than the Thompson/Martin/Fyfe brigade and they've laid there cards on the table and said this is a business venture, they know if they don't keep moving  forward the their venture will be fucked, and let's not forget where we were heading to not that long ago!


I think they may be the answer (at least short term) they can't sell a fading product.
 

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27/10/2019 9:58 pm  #2066


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 555.
Suzanne Vega.........................Suzanne Vega   (1985)













Suzanne Album 555.
Suzanne Vega.........................Suzanne Vega   (1985)






Suzanne Vega for this listener was pretty meh, boring and very insipid, the lyrics had a certain crispness which unfortunately for me didn't blend particularly well with the orchestration, lyrically although on the hum-drum side, were pretty much on the money but just didn't put itself "front and centre"



Apart from  "Marlene on the Wall"  and perhaps "Crakin' I wasn't too impressed, like Finn said earlier pretty inoffensive but no' even no' bad to be honest, no' an album I would  want in my collection, and although I do think Vega is a superb piece of gash that's no' quite enough for me to put her in my vinyl collection, so she wont be being purchased.






Bits & Bobs;



Suzanne Vega was born in Santa Monica, California, but grew up in Spanish Harlem and the Upper West Side of New York City.


 
She was raised by her mother, a computer systems analyst and her stepfather, the Puerto Rican writer Egardo Vega Yunque


.
Suzanne Vega attended New York City's High School of Performing Arts where she studied modern dance and graduated in 1977. Vega later attended Barnard College where she majored in English Literature.


 
Suzanne Vega wrote "Tom's Diner" whilst eating breakfast at Tom's Restaurant in New York City. Tom's Restaurant was also used as the model for Jerry Seinfield's hang out in his hit sitcom Seinfield.


 
She auditioned for the lead role in Desperately Seeking Susan, but lost out to Madonna.



 
In 1989 Suzanne Vega became the first ever woman to headline at UK's Glastonbury Festival. After receiving death threats from a girl infatuated with her bass player, Vega performed in a bulletproof vest.


 
When German computer programmer Karlheinz Brandenburg was developing the technology that would come to be known as the MP3, he found that Suzanne Vega's voice was the perfect template with which to test the purity of the audio compression that he was aiming to perfect. As a result, the MP3 format's voice compression was specifically calibrated to sound good when playing "Tom's Diner". Because of this, Vega has been referred to as the "Mother of the MP3."


 
Vega was the first major recording artist to perform live in the Internet-based virtual world, Second Life. The event, which took place on August 3, 2006, was hosted by John Hockenberry of public
radio's The Infinite Mind.


Suzanne Vega’s debut album was released in 1985. Well-received by music journalists, it reached platinum status in the UK and produced the international hit single ‘Marlene on the wall’.


 The album was produced by Lenny Kaye and Steve Addabbo.


 In 1989, Rolling Stone magazine listed Suzanne Vega at number 80 on its “100 Best Albums of the Eighties”.It is also mentioned in the book ‘1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die’.


 
Vega wrote this about coping with loneliness; she finds comfort by looking up to a poster of Marlene Dietrich on the wall. Vega really did have a poster of Dietrich on her wall. She explained in SongTalk magazine: "That was a truthful song. The lines came out of my life. But you want to be careful, too, because you don't want to get into 'Oh, my boyfriend left me...' I have a problem with specifically confessional songwriting. I think you have to craft it in some way. I don't think you can come on stage and blurt out your innermost feelings. My niece can blurt out her innermost feelings. She's four years old. I wouldn't want to pay $25 to go see her do that. You need to put it in a form. Although it is truthful, you have to give it some respect, or a certain kind of dignity, by putting it into a kind of form. Because these people are not my friends. They're paying to see a show, some form of entertainment. So I'm not gonna sit there and talk to them like Ronee Blakely in Nashville."


 
Marlene Dietrich was a German actress who became an international film star in the 1930s. During World War II, she put her movie career on hold in order to entertain US troops, a move that won her the Medal of Freedom, the highest military award a civilian can receive. Dietrich was 90 years old when she died in 1992.


 
Vega told SongTalk that this song always seemed "a little wide of mark, somehow." Said Vega: "It's accessible and people do like it, but for me, personally, inside myself, I feel I had something in mind, and I kind of did it, it was stylish, it was interesting, but I didn't feel it was quite the bulls-eye that some of the others were. The idea of using a poster as a reference point is a very pop idea. It's a song about Marlene Dietrich. You kind of get that from it, or it's a song about a relationship."


 
This was Vega's first single. It did well in the UK, but didn't get noticed in America. Vega, who is from New York, found success in the US 2 years later with her album Solitude Standing, which contained the hit song, "Luka."


 
Bauhaus lead singer Peter Murphy included a song called "Marlene Dietrichs favourite poem" on his 1989 solo album, Deep, where he makes an apparent reference to this track:



Just wise owl tones no velvet lies
Crush her velvet call
Oh Marlene suffer all the fools
Who write you on the wall




Suzanne Vega on Gender Identity, Britney Spears and New Concept Album Singer-songwriter’s latest, ‘Lover, Beloved,’ is inspired by life and work of Southern author Carson McCullers

 When Suzanne Vega premiered the play, Carson McCullers Talks About Love, five years ago in New York City, the evening of theatrical cabaret was the culmination of decades of investigation into the Southern author. But it didn’t satiate her creative spark. This week the “Luka” singer releases Lover, Beloved: Songs from an Evening with Carson McCullers, a 10-song concept album that takes listeners on a journey through literary luminary’s life and work.


 Vega discovered Carson McCullers – author of novels The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, The Member of the Wedding – as a teenager after reading her short story “Sucker,” loving its language and modern feel. But she didn’t realize it was written by a woman until she later read a biography, and her gender fluidity appealed to Vega.
  She explains that, although she’s heterosexual and has been married to men (“happily,” she points out), there was a time when “I did not like being female, being a girl,” which she expressed in her song “Small Blue Thing.” “I wanted to be something other than that, not necessarily male – if I could have been a thing or a plant or anything … I really loved how she was so open about her bisexuality. She was dual-natured the way she lived her life.”

 A collaboration with her friend, singer-songwriter Duncan Sheik, this album is a witty, bluesy passageway into a previous era. “Harper Lee,” a song packed with more literary references than seems feasible, is mined from actual things that McCullers said and wrote about her contemporaries. After the release of Lee’s Go Set a Watchmen last year, people wondered if it would spur Vega to change the song in some way. “I think [Lee] has, in effect, only written one book,” she explains. “It proves how prophetic Carson’s spirit it. It’s not the only thing that’s of this time. There’s quite a few things: gay people can marry … the Black Lives Matters movement has coalesced. The last song on the album, ‘Carson’s Last Supper,’ has overtones of Bernie Sanders’ [campaign] message. She was genuinely ahead of her time.”



 Despite a robust creative output over the years, perhaps Vega is still best remembered for her two earliest and biggest hits: the poetic observations in “Tom’s Diner” and “Luka,” which deals with child abuse. In fact, “Tom’s Diner” was once again a radio hit last year – nearly 30 years after its original a capella release on her first studio album Solitude Standing – when Giorgio Moroder remade it with Britney Spears singing the familiar lines: “I am sitting in the morning/At the diner on the corner/I am waiting at the counter/For the man to pour the coffee …”


 “I have to say, I was surprised,” Vega says. “It came right on the heels of Fall Out Boy [who sampled the song on “Centuries”]. I thought, ‘That’s great that Britney Spears wants to do this.’ I was impressed because it was her idea and … it’s showing maturity in her career choices.”


 Vega admits she was also surprised how closely Moroder followed the DNA remix that hit Number Five on the Hot 100 in 1990 after its release, hoping it may take on a disco tinge. “I’m a big Donna Summer fan, and I was expecting a real transformation,” she says. “I was thrilled [Britney] did it, and I hope she does it in her live show.” 
 The first single of this latest album, “We of Me,” may be a bit too transgressive to ever see such mainstream success, despite being the most contemporary-sounding song. The language is taken from The Member of the Wedding, and is sung from the perspective of the young protagonist, who wants to join her brother and his bride to be a perfect trio. “In Carson’s own life, she ended up loving two people at the same time,” Vega says. Alas, as joyful as it is, a song about a threesome – sexual or spiritual – may still be too much for someone to enjoy on their own wedding day.



 


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30/10/2019 11:25 am  #2067


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 556.
The Pogues..........................Rum, Sodomy, & The Lash   (1985)













Have to do this quick asI've got a load on this week, my tastes have definately changed over the years as  I used to be able to sit through this album in a oner back in the day, sadly I had to listen to this in small digestible chunks, there was just too much diddilee stuff to listen to in one sitting for this listener. I could listen to most of the tracks singulary,but nowadays a whole album is diddile overload and strats/started to grate.


I've never really took notice of  MacGowans lyrics before but he is a bit more talentedthan I've ever given him credit for, in saying that the track I liked best was "Dirty Old Town" written by Ewan MacColl (Kirsty's old man who was born to Scottish  parents, William Miller and Betsy (née Henry), both socialists. William Miller was an iron moulder and trade unionist who had moved to Salford with his wife, a charwoman, to look for work after being blacklisted in almost every foundry in Scotland.) All the other tracks were decent enough but for me spaced out over the day.

The Pogues were pretty unique at the time with their tradiditional Irish and punk fusion, but I coulcn't see me playing this too often, so this wont be going into my collection.





Bits & Bobs;


The Pogues formed in London in 1982 and hit it big after opening for The Clash in 1984. They were soon signed to Stiff Records and the label released their first album in October 1984. They were originally called Pogue Mahone, an Irish slang phrase that means "Kiss me arse." The band changed their name after getting a record deal with Stiff Records in the early '80s.


 
Joe Strummer from The Clash became the lead singer of The Pogues when frontman Shane MacGowan was fired from the band in 1991. MacGowan was let go after missing several dates on The Pogues' tour and was unwilling to help the band promote their latest album Hell's Ditch. Spider Stacy took over lead vocals when Strummer left in 1993.


 
Elvis Costello helped The Pogues record their second album Rum Sodomy & the Lash in 1985. The disc's title comes from a quote commonly attributed to former British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill.


 
The Pogues became very unstable in 1987 when their label Stiff Records went bankrupt. The band held together long enough to record a new album which spawned the Christmas hit "Fairytale Of New York" in 1988.


 
In 2001, The Pogues reunited for a short Christmas tour. Q magazine called the band one of the "50 Bands To See Before You Die."


 
In 2011, The Pogues announced that they would be doing an international tour the following year. The band planned on playing festivals in Australia and Japan before returning home. That same year, the group announced they would be releasing a box set in early 2012. The collection was called Just Look Them Straight In The Eye And Say POGUEMAHONE!! and it included five discs and 109 songs of material spanning the band's three decade long career.


A Review frm Sputnik Music;




Using a mixture of conventional rock instruments and traditional Irish ones, The Pogues were to hit the big time shortly after the first wave of punk rock died and fell in a heap. This, along with their unique sound, would bring them a considerable amount of success in the mid to late 80's. The band possessed the rebellious spirit, political ire and compositional abilities to endear themselves to fans of folk and punk alike, and their legendary excesses did nothing to harm their allure. With 'Rum, Sodomy and the Lash' the band produced a wonderfully varied album which lurches spectacularly between the serious and the celebratory and between the fast and the slow.




Shane MacGowan would become notorious for his problems with substance abuse, but his vocal and lyrical contribution to this album reveals a man whose songwriting abilities more than match his capacity for alcohol. Take for instance the vividness with which he conjures up London's male prostitution scene on 'The Old Main Drag' and contrast that with his defiant howls on opener 'The Sick Bed of Cuchulainn' and it becomes clear that this is a lead singer who can transition from emotional peak to emotional trough in the space of two short songs. On 'The Old Main Drag' the protagonist sings of how he has been 'shat on and spat on and raped and abused' as he finishes his tale about his life as a rent boy, while 'Sick Bed' features the similar use of caustic and graphic imagery such as vomiting in church, a brothels and sexually transmitted diseases. The Pogues were not interested in sugar coating their material and nor were they, as some assume, just a band of drunks singing songs about drinking for the enjoyment of drunks.




'Sally MacLennane' is one track which certainly does cry out to be listened to with a large group of intoxicated friends. The song is pretty much an ode to the wonders of alcohol and the traditional Irish pub, and might be the most famous non-christmas song that the band wrote themselves. If it's one for a night in full swing, then 'A Pair of Brown Eyes' is a tune to accompany the hangover or the lonely walk home. Here we find MacGowan despairing about his lack of success with the ladies backed by swooning Celtic instruments, and the song would prove to be one of the band's most popular. Throughout the album's runtime, it is these instruments which conjure up sounds that exude warmth in a way standard rock instruments usually don't.




Half the songs on the record were not actually written by The Pogues. This might sound lazy, but they pull off a range of covers of both traditional and popular songs seamlessly, so that the casual listener is none the wiser as to which tracks were actually penned by MacGowan and co. Cait O'Riordan's vocal turn on 'I'm a Man You Don't Meet Everyday' is superbly executed and 'Dirty Old Town' is an engaging spin on the tale of industrial squalor that a vast number of artists covered both before and after the album's release, often far less interestingly. Also worth highlighting is the excellent rendition of 'And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda' which serves as a sombre closer. Eric Bogle's original is done justice as MacGowan injects just the right amount of emotion into his vocals, reflecting on the horrors of war and the ways it is memorialised.




'Rum, Sodomy and the Lash' is The Pogues' finest work, although some prefer the almost as good follow up 'If I Should Fall From Grace With God'. The album is packed with an impressive amount of variety, original material blending seamlessly with covers and instrumental numbers. The last thing MacGowan or his band could ever be accused of is being boring, and the almost complete absence of bad songs on this album is a testament to that. It goes down rightly as the album that captured the band at their emotional, intoxicated and brilliant best.

Shane MacGowan was born to the Irish couple. He was born on 25th December 1957. His father, Maurice, was an employee of a departmental store. His mother, Therese was a model, singer and customary Irish dancer in Dublin.

 He joined the Holmewood House School at Langton Green, Tunbridge Wells. In 1971, Mac was awarded a scholarship and was admitted into Westminister School. He was dismissed during the 2nd year as he was caught with drugs.


 MacGowan resided in County Tipperary, Ireland till they shifted to England when was six and a half years. He spent his life in London and Brighton.

 Shane MacGowan made his debut performance in 1976



Sometime later, MacGowan founded his punk rock band, The Nipple Erectors which was renamed as “TheNips.”



 Many of his songs reflect the Irish nationalism and the experience of an Irish in the UK and the USA.MacGowan drew inspiration from the Irish writer James Clarence Mangan and Brendan Behan. MacGowan co-authored “Fairytale of New York” which he presented with Kirsty MacColl.



 In 1997, He presented “Perfect Day” in aid of Children in Need. This was # 1 single. This single was sold a million copies.


 During 1992-2005, Shane MacGowan formed a new band entitled Shane MacGowan and the Popes. Here he recorded albums and track on The Popes Outlaw Heaven. He toured universally.


 MacGowan and the Popes traveled widely in UK, Ireland and Europe from 2004 to 2009. He participated in the slots of Guilfest in England and the Azkena Rock Festival in Spain.


 Shane MacGowan returned to the Pogues in 2005. Macgowan announced “Fairytale of New York” in the same year to raise funds for Justice For Kirsty Campaign and Crisis at Christmas. This single was #3 in the UK Charts.


 MacGowan was rated 50th in the NME Rock Heros List. He has presented many times along with Pete Doherty, singer of The Libertines and Babyshambles.



 Tim Bradford in his book, Shane MacGowan Still Alive? referred to MacGowan to highlight the tradition of Ireland.


 During 2010, MacGowan presented unprepared shows in the band Dublin with Shame Gang. He worked as a writer on How to Train Your Dragan 2 for a song the Dancing and the Dreaming



 Shane MacGowan has a sibling, elder to him, Siobhan MacGowan.Siobhan is a journalist, writer, and songwriter. He announced the collection of songs Chariot in 1998. He has authored a story for children, Etain’s Dream.



 He is living in Dublin with his long-time girlfriend, Victoria Mary Clarke



 Shane MacGowan was found to have drugs in his possession. Sinead O’Connor reported this matter to the police in London. He was grateful to O’Connor as this helped him get over the drug addiction.


 He often sang while drunk and suffered bodily. In his interview on BBC, MacGowan gave confused replies to This Week on the ban of smoking in Ireland.


 Shane MacGowan lost his natural teeth and had a denture with a gold tooth. This dental procedure became the talk on TV: Shane MacGowan: A Wreck Reborn.


 He has presented in the event of Fair City in 2008. He has also featured in the reality show Victoria and Shane Grow their Own. He and Victoria attempted to grow their food in their garden.


 MacGowan in 2010, presented to Irish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, a painting for auction. This piece of art fetched 1602 pounds. In 2015, MacGowan suffered a fall which damaged his pelvis. He is now forced to use a wheelchair.



Shane MacGowan wrote his autobiography with Victoria Mary Clarke: The book is titled A Drink with Shane MacGowan.




"A Pair of Brown Eyes"




 
This wistful ballad is sung by Shane MacGowan from the perspective of a World War I veteran. The Pogues vocalist based its melody on "Wild Mountain Thyme," a folk song penned by Francis McPeake in 1957 in a traditional Irish style.


 
The song was the first by The Pogues to make the UK singles chart, peaking at #72.


 
When accordion player James Fearnley first heard the song, he realized Shane MacGowan's songwriting had gone up a level. "Musically that song had a timeless eternal vibe," Fearnley told The Irish Post December 16, 2013. "I really enjoyed the chords; it felt like there was a circular motion about the chord progression. The vocal melody was sublime and there was this instrumental section which had a real purity about it. I found that very appealing."



"Against that music you have lyrics which I found difficult to track, they were almost counter to the music and that was very exciting," added Fearnley. "He (MacGowan) would smash up an image in shards and rearrange it as a way to find the story. I love the way you have Shane as narrator and how he gets through the story of the song. There's a jaded irony about it where he's making light out of dismemberment and the horrors of war; I always like that about Shane's songs-they pack an extra punch because he holds back the punch."


 
The song's music video was directed by Alex Cox (Sid & Nancy), who also used Rum, Sodomy & the Lash producer Elvis Costello, in his film Straight to Hell. The clip portrayed Margaret Thatcher as a supreme, Big Brother-like authoritarian figure. It was said to be comment on a totalitarian government and the politics of the then British Prime Minister.




"Sally MacLennane"


This song was inspired by the legendary early 1980s drinking sessions that Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan would take part in with his friends around the bars at Euston railway station before boarding the boat train to Holyhead for the ferry to Dun Laoghaire. "I was always a little envious of Shane, it was almost this ritualistic thing where he'd get stocious and his friends would put him on the train to Ireland," accordion player James Fearnley recalled to The Irish Post December 16, 2013. "A lot from that song had also come from being a barman himself at the Great Ormond Street hospital bar. He knew about watering whiskey down from that I'm sure."


 
The Sally MacLennane that MacGowan sings of returning to in his "greatest little boozer" is not a woman, but a brand of stout.




 

  


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31/10/2019 12:24 pm  #2068


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 558.
The Smiths..........................Meat Is Murder   (1985)














The original photo of this soldier, Marine Corporal Michael Wynn, was taken in 1967. He had the words “Make war not love” inscribed on his helmet. It was used as the image for Emile de Antonio’s doc ‘In the Year of the Pig’ in 1968, but The Smiths changed the wording to “Meat is Murder” for their ’85 album. Wynn is reportedly still alive and living in Australia.




Meat Is Murder is the great lost Smiths album, in the sense that it has been obscured by their later work.  ( I don't personally think so)


After their debut, Manchester's finest sons went into the studio with the mission statement of making a record that would better represent their live sets and BBC sessions. Not that The Smiths had been a total dissapointment, but guitarist Johnny Marr, who is as adept at a metallic crunch as a Fiftie's rockabilly shuffle, would truly amaze with his guitar palette this time round.


Morrisey was on the ball too. His attention had turned to his passions vegetarianism, pasifism, and antiauthoritarianism---the album title, the album cover ( a shot of a Vietnam soldier at war) and in particular the lyrics of the title track, spoke volumes about his strong lifetime views.


Meat Is Murder is The Smiths with a point to prove. The album sounds all the sweeter when you realise they actually proved it.



 


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31/10/2019 2:57 pm  #2069


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Hello, new poster here - aye ok not but I wanted to come on to clear a couple of things up.

Moving to hkg and in Amsterdam just now.  Pat - you didnt say anything to offend me in the slightest i have enjoyed the chats and interactions as this is the best site out there.  I just decided as i was moving abroad and having made an arse of myself enough it was time to move one.  Just signed up to say that.

Tek - sorry you took it that way and i apologise for giving any impression of a huff.  It really wasnt meant like that but alas yet another post by me that was intended one way and ends another.  One thing keep it going bud this site is awesome.  Ive struggled mentally for a while now and so sorry i got a wee bit drunk and came on here with my drivel  

Chanter - you deserve a medal and i personally would love to shake your hand personally.  What an achievement.  Big Black is a classic - songs about fucking also equally as good.  

I will PM you all as well as didnt like the feeling I had left for any reason other than time to move on.  New job, new country, new culture and same old united i suppose lol

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31/10/2019 9:33 pm  #2070


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

hkgarab wrote:

Hello, new poster here - aye ok not but I wanted to come on to clear a couple of things up.

Moving to hkg and in Amsterdam just now.  Pat - you didnt say anything to offend me in the slightest i have enjoyed the chats and interactions as this is the best site out there.  I just decided as i was moving abroad and having made an arse of myself enough it was time to move one.  Just signed up to say that.



You can see why I'm dubious  



Welcome to the forum hkgarab. I hope you have a safe trip and happy future.

 

01/11/2019 11:44 pm  #2071


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

hkgarab wrote:

Hello, new poster here - aye ok not but I wanted to come on to clear a couple of things up.

Moving to hkg and in Amsterdam just now.  Pat - you didnt say anything to offend me in the slightest i have enjoyed the chats and interactions as this is the best site out there.  I just decided as i was moving abroad and having made an arse of myself enough it was time to move one.  Just signed up to say that.

Tek - sorry you took it that way and i apologise for giving any impression of a huff.  It really wasnt meant like that but alas yet another post by me that was intended one way and ends another.  One thing keep it going bud this site is awesome.  Ive struggled mentally for a while now and so sorry i got a wee bit drunk and came on here with my drivel  

Chanter - you deserve a medal and i personally would love to shake your hand personally.  What an achievement.  Big Black is a classic - songs about fucking also equally as good.  

I will PM you all as well as didnt like the feeling I had left for any reason other than time to move on.  New job, new country, new culture and same old united i suppose lol

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No problem mate.

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04/11/2019 10:23 pm  #2072


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

hkgarab wrote:

Hello, new poster here - aye ok not but I wanted to come on to clear a couple of things up.

Moving to hkg and in Amsterdam just now.  Pat - you didnt say anything to offend me in the slightest i have enjoyed the chats and interactions as this is the best site out there.  I just decided as i was moving abroad and having made an arse of myself enough it was time to move one.  Just signed up to say that.

Tek - sorry you took it that way and i apologise for giving any impression of a huff.  It really wasnt meant like that but alas yet another post by me that was intended one way and ends another.  One thing keep it going bud this site is awesome.  Ive struggled mentally for a while now and so sorry i got a wee bit drunk and came on here with my drivel  

Chanter - you deserve a medal and i personally would love to shake your hand personally.  What an achievement.  Big Black is a classic - songs about fucking also equally as good.  

I will PM you all as well as didnt like the feeling I had left for any reason other than time to move on.  New job, new country, new culture and same old united i suppose lol

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Shedboy I for one enjoyed your posts, sometimes a bit leftfield but I'm the last cunt to talk about anybody talking shite, I've been doing it long enough myself on here .


I always liked your posts and new quite a few were tongue in cheek, but I have got a bone to pick wi' you.......I thought I might be on a promise wi' thon locheefleet................ye bastard that you are


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04/11/2019 11:59 pm  #2073


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 557.
Kate Bush.....................Hounds Of Love   (1985)












This offering gave me two surprises, firstly it wasn't (like the boy from the book said "Split across two discs" a double album, at least from what I gathered, maybe when it went to CD ??????? And secondly I wasn't wishing it to finish as quickly as I was with "The Dreaming."



Now, In saying that this is not an album I would consider for my collection, but it really wasn't as bad as I was fearing, on this album I felt she hooked you in with the obligatory chanty bits in most of the tracks, I've always found her songs to be a bit mystic and her rather bewitching, bordering on the hypnotic witchy side (in the videos she seems to be looking inside you) but then again that could probably just be me.



Although the four successful singles are the bulk of side 1, I have to admit that given everything on Gods Earth that I've ever said and the ammount of times I've slagged this artist aff, I really liked Side two: The Ninth Wave, I'm actually listening to it as I'm writing, and to be fair it's no' my normal fare, but even though it seems a bit over the top and very theatrical, I have taken a bit of a liking for it.


I do have a problem with this album and may be miniscule to some, but I do think she would be bettered served if she gave some of the tracks a bit of a trim, some were starting to grate at times, but all in all fourty seven and a half minutes of half decent music, and I'm glad I gave it a listen.



This album won't be going into my vinyl collection, but do give it a spin, you never know?






Bits & Bobs;


Have written about Ms Bush earlier in post #506 (if interested)



Kate Bush – Hounds of Love

When Kate Bush first materialised out of the ether in the latter half of the 70s the popular music world was more than a little perplexed. Plucked from relative obscurity by Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour, Bush released her suitably proggy breakthrough smash Wuthering Heights and resulting LP The Kick Inside in 1978. Over the next few years she gained a sizeable following with a series of increasingly experimental and musically diverse records, reaching glorious heights with her 1985 masterwork Hounds of Love.



 Perhaps taking inspiration from David Bowie’s Berlin trilogy, Bush conceptually divided the record into two distinct halves. The first, more mainstream-friendly side being subtitled ‘Hounds of Love’ while the second side consisted of more impressionistic music and was subtitled ‘The Ninth Wave’ – the title of a poem by one of her towering literary influences: Alfred, Lord Tennyson.



 Enlisting the help of her long-term boyfriend and musical collaborator, Del Palmer, and a team of engineers, including James Guthrie who worked on (amongst other records) Pink Floyd’s audacious The Wall, recording began at Bush’s recently constructed 48-track studio, which she had built in an old barn situated next to her family home.



 Bush would describe building her own studio as “the best decision I ever made”, and she kitted it out with the most up-to-date music technology of the time: LinnDrum machines, a vast array of synths and, most importantly, her Fairlight CMI sampler, which she had utilised heavily on preceding album The Dreaming and would incorporate in a very forward-thinking way on Hounds of Love and future productions. She composed the bulk of the album’s material with the Fairlight after using a Yamaha CS-80 as her primary composition tool on previous albums.


 



 The Fairlight CMI (which stands for Computer Music Instrument) was a key tool in the realisation of Hounds of Love.




 Talking to Electronic Music Maker in 1982 Bush said that what attracted her to the Fairlight was “its ability to create very human, animal, emotional sounds that don’t actually sound like a machine. I think in a way that’s what I’ve been waiting for.”



 Opening track Running up That Hill was one of a handful of tracks written by Bush on piano, and is a song sweeping with majesty, yearning and power. The musical landscape is defined by the instantly familiar skittish synth riff and insistent drum machine beat. Electric guitar plays its part too, peppering itself through the latter half of the track in little mini-furious fuzzy freak-outs. All the while Bush’s dramatic and emotive vocals take centre stage. Multi-tracked vocals compete and bolster the lush melody.



 “Take your shoes off, and throoow them in a lake!’’ Bush then impetuously commands, elongating with a compelling growl the word ‘throw’ on this, the album’s title track. Hounds of Love kicks off with the sampled phrase “It’s in the trees, it’s coming!” (taken from horror movie Night of the Demon) before exploding into a gorgeous synth-underbed, pulsing with a big drum sound.


 Very soon Bush once again demonstrates her powerful vocal range, and even though a fascinating musical tapestry is created here it is this vocal that is impossible to ignore. The song’s synth-pad base is countered by a folk-y, repetitive string section that serves to fuel the paper-thin tension evoked by Bush’s singing.



 The Big Sky is dominated by a funky, bouncy bass guitar, multi-tracked vocals and what is essentially a singular hook that is repeated throughout the song. The simplistic guitar riff that kicks in towards the song’s conclusion serves as a secondary hook before Bush’s gospel chorus of multi-tracked vocals rounds off the song in an unexpected way.



Mother Stands for Comfort distinctly shifts the tone. The opening three tracks’ joyous mania makes way for a more contemplative air as Bush lyrically reflects on the protective relationship between a mother and son – despite the son’s wrongdoings (murder?) he knows that his mother will always protect him. The track features the kinetic, fretless bass of Eberhard Weber, who collaborated with Bush on preceding album The Dreaming. His flowing, moving bass is the key element of this track, which also features a lovely matching piano/vocal melody, unusual distant whistling and a curious backward phasing effect.




Cloudbusting is a sample-heavy composition that Bush wrote and arranged on the Fairlight CMI. “Discovering the Fairlight gave me a whole new writing tool, as well as an arranging tool,” Bush told Option magazine in 1990, “…like the difference between writing a song on a piano or on a guitar. With a Fairlight you’ve got everything: a tremendous range of things. It completely opened me up to sounds and textures, and I could experiment with these in a way I could never have done without it.”


 The heart-wrenchingly beautiful and cinematic And Dream of Sheep begins the ‘Ninth Wave’ section of the record. Bush’s vocals are touchingly soft, layered over glacial piano chords and sampled sound effects that include unsettling disconnected voices and distant seagulls, evoking Dark Side of the Moon-era Pink Floyd.



 Under Ice is a dramatic and scene-setting piece that features multi-layered vocals, building to a climax that never comes. Bush used her home studio as an instrument when creating this side’s seven-song suite. Shortly after building her studio, Bush told MTV that “when you work experimentally it actually becomes prohibitive because it costs money to work in a commercial studio. Plus the distractions. So you have to find your own place, and you’ve got to get the best equipment in there that you can afford!”



 The eighth track Waking the Witch is a chilling piece of textured sound. A freaky, whispered voice states “wake up” with an ominous swelling piano chord kicking off the composition (which is actually recorded backwards) resolving into a sampled voice saying “this is your early morning call” before exploding into a sea of chopped-up myriad voices insisting that the listener (or Bush herself) wakes up. Crazed piano and guitar arpeggios then form an uneasy, uncomfortable musical landscape as the track conjures an image of a witch trial. Watching You Without Me is the perfect comedown from the insanity of the previous aural onslaught.



 The next piece of music Jig of Life is undeniably Celtic in influence, complete with violins, pipes and, yes… a jig-able rhythm. However, as this is Kate Bush nothing is quite as it seems: the melody takes a dark and spooky turn as her vocals get more demented. Halfway through, the song breaks down into a violin solo before poetic, Irish vocals (provided by Kate’s brother Paddy) kick in. Jig of Life was (appropriately) arranged by Riverdance composer Bill Whelan.



 Hello Earth commences with more sampled voices, this time, incongruously, of astronauts, before settling into a more traditional piece of music – a melodically gorgeous piano ballad that grows in power as the track continues. The track then seemingly stops, as a male vocal chorus kicks in. The effect is unnerving; shortly after, the musical elements of the song then re-assert themselves.



 The album’s final song The Morning Fog satisfactorily resolves the album both musically and thematically with an uplifting and sprightly melody. Bush’s lyrics are positive, referring to being ‘born again’ and how much she loves her various family members, as Del Palmer’s sterling bass work keeps the various musical elements together. Though the song is short it works as a piece of musical punctuation, bringing Bush’s most aurally stimulating work to a close.


 The PlayersKate Bush
Conceptual singer/songwriter and producer, Bush created her own studio at Wickham Farm, giving her the freedom and time to craft her musical landscapes.


 Del Palmer
Longtime Bush band member, studio bassist and boyfriend, Del Palmer worked with Kate on track composition and also led the studio engineering team.


 Paddy Bush
Kate’s multi-instrumentalist brother Paddy contributed guitar, mandolin and a variety of other unusual instruments, including the didgeridoo!


 James Guthrie
Best known for his work with Pink Floyd on The Wall, Guthrie worked with Bush engineering the record, and conducted the orchestral sessions for Cloudbusting.




Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)

 
This song is about making a deal with God to swap lives with another person. Bush explained in a 1985 interview: "It's about a relationship between a man and a woman. They love each other very much, and the power of the relationship is something that gets in the way. It creates insecurities. It's saying if the man could be the woman and the woman the man, if they could make a deal with God, to change places, that they'd understand what it's like to be the other person and perhaps it would clear up misunderstandings. You know, all the little problems; there would be no problem."


 
Bush wrote this with the title "Deal With God." Her label made her change it because they didn't think radio stations would play a song with "God" in the title. Bush still regrets letting them rename her song, but her previous album didn't do very well and she wanted to make sure this got airplay.



 
Bush's record company wanted to release "Cloudbusting" as the first single, but Kate convinced them to release this instead. Since they had already renamed her song, it was considered a compromise.



 
This was Bush's biggest hit in the US.



 
A version by Placebo was recorded for their 2007 Covers album. It entered the UK singles chart in January 2010 as a result of its use in the theatrical trailer for the feature film Daybreakers.



 

A new version of the song, subtitled "2012 Remix," reached #6 on the UK singles chart in August 2012. The track was transposed down a semitone to fit Bush's current lower vocal range and was premiered during the 2012 London Olympics closing ceremony. Bush did not appear in person, but the recording was featured in a crucial section after the athletes entered.



Hounds of Love


This is about the fear that rules all of us in one way or another, in particular the fear of love. The hounds of love that are hunting you is imagery for love itself as something to be feared, to run away from lest it catch you and rip you up. At the same time, it says that perhaps the hounds are friendly and one should not fear love ("I've always been a coward, and never know what's good for me").


 
The song was inspired in part by an old black and white movie which was sort of a cult classic in Kate's family titled Night Of The Demon. The movie was about demons who hid waiting in trees - the song's opening line (in a male voice) "It's coming! It's in the trees!" is taken directly from the movie.


 
The title track from Bush's most commercially successful CD, this was one of the songs from the first portion of the album of which 4 songs had UK chart success. The first 5 songs are very much separate pieces ("Running Up That Hill," "Hounds of Love," "The Big Sky," "Mother Stands for Comfort" and "Cloudbusting"). Of these 5, only "Mother Stands For Comfort" was not a hit. The last 7 songs are a conceptual suite written to be one piece of music. A remaster of the album was released in 1996 with 4 additional songs from the same period.


 
The album was recorded in a windowless studio that Bush had constructed in a converted barn near her parents' house in semi-rural East Wickham, south east of London. Kate Bush (from Q magazine): "People commented on how the album seems very elemental. And I can't help but put quite a lot of that down to the fact that I moved out into the country. The visual stimulus coming in was that of fields and trees, and seeing the elements doing their stuff."


 Kate Bush: "The hounds of love are an image really, someone who's afraid of being captured by love; and the imagery is love taking the form of hounds that are hunting them, so they run away because they're afraid of being caught by the hounds and ripped to shreds."


 The shot of Kate Bush reclining on the Hounds of Love album cover was taken by her brother, John Carder Bush. He also supplied backing vocals on "Cloudbusting" and the narration on "Jig of Life."


 
An indie-rock cover of this song by The Futureheads was released in 2005, and became that band's first major commercial hit, reaching #8 on the UK Singles chart and getting named Single of the Year by NME magazine.


 
The hounds of love on the album cover are Kate Bush's two dogs, Bonnie and Clyde. According to an interview with the singer, it took all day to get the hounds to settle down. When the final picture was taken, one of the pooches actually fell asleep on her. On the album sleeve notes Kate gives, "A big woof to Bonnie & Clyde."



The Big Sky



This song is about someone sitting and watching the clouds change, like many of us have done as a child. Sometimes the clouds will change into shapes that remind you of a person or object.




Mother Stands for Comfort


This song is about a mother’s protecting nature, her unconditional love, even though her child committed a crime. “In this case she’s the mother of a murderer”, Kate Bush said.

 The eery synth sounds compliment the lyrical topic. Furthermore, there are sounds of breaking glass and snares that resemble gun shots.


 “Mother Stands for Comfort” is the only song on side 1 of Hounds of Love which wasn’t released as a single.



Kate Bush said about the song in a 1985;



"Well, the personality that sings this track is very unfeeling in a way. And the cold qualities of synths and machines were appropriate here. There are many different kinds of love and the track’s really talking about the love of a mother, and in this case she’s the mother of a murderer, in that she’s basically prepared to protect her son against anything. ‘Cause in a way it’s also suggesting that the son is using the mother, as much as the mother is protecting him. It’s a bit of a strange matter, isn’t it really?"




"Cloudbusting"

 
Like Bush's first hit, "Wuthering Heights," this is based on a book. It was inspired by Peter Reich's 1973 Book of dreams, which describes his father Wilhelm's arrest for contempt of court.


 
Wilhelm Reich was an Austrian psychiatrist who was trained in Vienna by Sigmund Freud. His work combined Marxism and psychoanalysis to advocate sexual freedom. In the 1930s, Reich came up with the concept of "orgone," a physical energy contained in the atmosphere and in all living matter. The "Cloudbuster" was a device he came up with to manipulate the orgone energy in the atmosphere, which would force clouds to form and bring rain.


 
Hawkwind and Patti Smith have both released songs about Reich's concept of Cloudbusting.



 
The video, directed by Julian Doyle, stars Donald Sutherland as the inventor/father trying to get his cloudbusting machine to work.



 
In a 1985 interview, Bush explained she came upon Reich's book by accident. "I didn't know anything about the writer. I just pulled it off the shelf, it looked interesting, and it was an incredible story. It's written by Peter Reich, and it's called A Book of Dreams. It's about himself as a child, through his eyes as a child, looking at his father and their relationship. It's incredibly beautiful, it's very, very emotive, and very innocent because it's through a child's eyes. His father was a very respected psychoanalyst, and besides this, something that features in the book, he made machines called 'cloudbusters' that could make it rain, and him and his father used to go out together and make it rain; they used to go 'cloudbusting.' And, unfortunately, the peak in the book is where his father is arrested, taken away from him; he was considered a threat. So, suddenly, his father is gone, so it's a very sad book as well."




"Dream of Sheep"

“And Dream of Sheep” is track 6 on Kate Bush’s seminal work, Hounds of Love; her fifth studio album. The song begins side two of the album, a conceptual suite of seven tracks dubbed, “The Ninth Wave”.


 Kate Bush described “The Ninth Wave” as being “about a person who is alone in the water for the night. It’s about their past, present and future coming to keep them awake, to stop them drowning, to stop them going to sleep until the morning comes”.


 “And Dream of Sheep” is the most literal of the suite, introducing the narrator who is lost at sea. The song is comprised only of Kate Bush’s signature voice and soft piano punctuated by various samples and sound effects, highlighting key moments in the lyrics. Sea whistles and acoustic guitars appear near the end to finish the song.




"Under Ice"



The second song is called “Under Ice”, and is the dream that the person has. They’re skating on ice; it’s a frozen river and it’s very white everywhere and they’re all alone, there doesn’t appear to be anyone else there. As they skate along they look down at the ice and they can see something moving underneath. As they skate along with the object that’s moving under the ice they come to a crack in the ice; and as it moves under the crack, they see that it’s themselves in the water drowning, and at that moment they wake up into the next song, which is about friends and memories who come to wake them up to stop them drowning."




"Waking the Witch"


 “Waking the Witch” is the first in a series of three songs about the hallucinations experienced by the woman as she slowly freezes and runs out of oxygen. The three songs appear to follow a past, present, future pattern, with “Waking the Witch” representing the past.


 The song is based partially on a book titled The Witch of Blackbird Pond where the main character is witness to a Salem-like witch trial and burning. The character in the song appears to be experiencing the trial as the defendant, as the prosecutor attempts to berate a confession out of her. As the jury delivers their verdict, she maintains her innocence, and the song ends with reality breaking through her delusion long enough for us to hear the words “Get out of the waves, get out of the water” from the rescue team in their helicopter.



"Watching You Without Me"



It tells the ghost or spirit’s return of the unconcious shipwrecked woman in her home. Nobody can see her, speak to her but she tries. They wait for her, they worry, she is desespeated



"Jig of Life"

 “Jig of Life” is the third in a series of three songs about the hallucinations experienced by the woman as she slowly freezes and runs out of oxygen. The three songs appear to follow a past, present, future pattern, with “Jig of Life” representing the future.

 The drowning woman is confronted by her future self, who tries to convince her to fight for their shared life.




"Hello Earth"


 This song comes as the last of the drowning woman’s strength is leaving her. Although both the rescue team (“Get out of the waves, get out of the water”) and her own subconscious (“Murderer, murderer of calm”) are still attempting to reach her, she only hears them as very far off voices. She is withdrawn and feels disconnected from her body to such an extent that she seems to forget all about herself, seeing only the Earth, and thinking of sleep.


 There are Gregorian hymns played throughout the piece that give the feel of a funeral procession, but it should be noted that Kate Bush has said that the character from “The Ninth Wave” does not die, which is evidenced by the last track, “The Morning Fog”. Even if the character does not die, she is clearly on the brink of death.



"The Morning Fog"


 This song concludes “The Ninth Wave”, as the woman survives her near-death experience and returns to consciousness. Having come so close to death, she promises to appreciate life more fully, as well as those who participate in hers.


 Kate Bush has stated that the character from “The Ninth Wave” does not die, but many fans have argued that she does. To them, this song is about reincarnation/rebirth, and the lessons retained from the previous life.


 





 


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05/11/2019 10:29 am  #2074


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Album 559.
Tom Waits........................Rain Dogs   (1985)










Rain Dogs is the eighth album by American singer-songwriter Tom Waits. It’s often considered the middle album of a trilogy of sorts, starting with Swordfishtrombones and ending with Frank's Wild Years


 It’s an unpredictable, thoroughly unique album that, really, could only have been made by Tom Waits. Here he refines and perfects his style to an impeccable degree – the songs all sound like they were performed by some derelict Dixieland jazz band of the damned and Waits spits out demented poetry like he could easily be muttering these songs to himself as he wanders in and out of alleys in the dead of night.


 This is undeniably reinforced by Waits' total willingness to experiment in the studio. As he’s said of his process:


"If I want a sound, I usually feel better if I’ve chased it and killed it, skinned it and cooked it. Most things you can get with a button nowadays. So if I was trying for a certain drum sound, my engineer would say: “Oh, for Christ’s sake, why don’t we just sample something?” I’d say, “No, I would rather go in the bathroom and hit the door with a piece of two-by-four very hard.


 Rain Dogs was primarily influenced by his recent move to New York City with his expectant wife, Kathleen (their first son, Casey, was born shortly after the album’s release).


 The album was a stunning critical success (and is still universally regarded as a classic) and achieved some chart success, peaking at #29 in the UK and #188 in the US.


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05/11/2019 10:44 am  #2075


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Hounds of Love: I think the tracks get less memorable on the first side of the album as it progresses. That Cloudbursting (last track side one): suddenly, after all these years, I've realised that it was sampled by the Utah Saints for their 'Something Good' single. Call me stupid, how had I not realised this before........?

See, this site and particularly this big long thread can be an education.

Side Two is full of moody stuff, for me: I reckon there will be situations in which you'll enjoy The Ninth Wave more some days than others, or even on particular times of day. The percussion captures me quite a bit on this side, and the repetitiveness of the musical tracks behind the signing.

The music is beyond categorisation. Clever lassie.





 

 

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