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Tek · 04/8/2025 11:21 pm

Live on BBC Scotland.

What team and formation gives us our best chance to win (or draw)?

DC09 · 05/8/2025 9:14 am

Tek wrote:
Live on BBC Scotland.

What team and formation gives us our best chance to win (or draw)?

I think Goodwin may go 451 like he did against the ugly sisters last season.

Kucherenko

Sevelj Esselink Keresztes Ferry

Sapsford Pappoe Sibbald Camara Dolcek

Watters

LarsErikKjell · 05/8/2025 9:44 am

Kuch

Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes

Sev
Camara
Sibbald
Pappoe
Ferry

Watters
Sapsford

This would be my 11. 352. Keep it tight and counter when we can.

SuperMario · 05/8/2025 10:02 am

LarsErikKjell wrote:
Kuch

Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes

Sev
Camara
Sibbald
Pappoe
Ferry

Watters
Sapsford

This would be my 11. 352. Keep it tight and counter when we can.

Yep exact same as me

lifesanocean · 06/8/2025 10:53 am

SuperMario wrote:
LarsErikKjell wrote:
Kuch

Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes

Sev
Camara
Sibbald
Pappoe
Ferry

Watters
Sapsford

This would be my 11. 352. Keep it tight and counter when we can.

Yep exact same as me

Yeah me too.

redford_must_score · 06/8/2025 3:43 pm

Thinking about this from their point of view maybe they would have hoped for a proper minnow, not a club with a European history no matter how long ago that was. And knowing that if they don't finish the tie in Vienna they're going to face a packed and noisy Tannadice next week.
Also they won't have any real idea of how we may play over there and the fact that our new players are not on video from games together last season and it all might be a bit unpredictable.

Maybe I'm talking our chances up a bit. I predicted a 2-0 defeat on the Predictor league but if we could keep it to a single goal 1-0/2-1 you just never know.

redford_must_score · 06/8/2025 3:55 pm

LarsErikKjell wrote:
Kuch

Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes

Sev
Camara
Sibbald
Pappoe
Ferry

Watters
Sapsford

This would be my 11. 352. Keep it tight and counter when we can.

That might well be how we line up.
A couple of alternatives though. The first is 451 with attacking players within the 5 who can come out to support the 1 up front eg

Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes
Ferry

Sevelj
Sibbald
Pappoe
Camara
Dolcek

Sapsford 60 min
Watters 30

Or, very left field, unlikely as fuck, 4141 with Sam CH working across the back line as a sweeper type.

Svelje
Iovu
Esselink
Keresztes

Cleall-Harding

Pappoe
Sibbald
Camara
Dolcek

Watters/Sapsford minutes each.

The latter hasn't been tried so that is never happening. Probably ever. It probably will be Lars lineup but I'm not sure we need a formation with two up front.

redford_must_score · 06/8/2025 9:01 pm

Source BBC

"Amar Fata and Dario Naamo will train with the rest of the United squad on the eve of the match as they get closer to making their debuts.

Ross Graham, Ryan Strain and Kristijan Trapanowski are all out long-term.

Austria Under-21 winger Nikolaus Wurmbrand is among those missing for the home side"

Tek · 06/8/2025 10:36 pm

My one main hope for tomorrow night is it doesn't go the way of Scotland performances in major tournaments.

I.e. a complete mismatch, embarrassment and then we get subsequent well-meaning but condescending posts like 'what a support you guys were, really loud' and the whole things just boils down to a piss-up in a City Square and airport selfies for those who travelled.

We had that sort of humiliation in Alkmaar and tomorrow night i want to see a United side who are worthy of wearing the badge on the continent. I want to see a professional, confident performance an obvious game plan and an attempt to also get forward and score.

These are huge nights for everyone with Dundee United in their heart, from the supporters in the stands in Vienna to the guy glued to a wireless doing the nightshift, to the two and three generations of family sitting watching it on the telly.

Mon United.

Tek · Yesterday 3:54 am

Rapid's Press conference.

Very interesting. They seem to think United are very physical, they mention it numerous times.

They are giving us massive respect and have done their homework regards us it would seem. They talk about our games vs Una Strassen specifically.

They have a translator (who's Scottish).

Arabdownsouth · Yesterday 4:43 am

Tek wrote:
My one main hope for tomorrow night is it doesn't go the way of Scotland performances in major tournaments.

I.e. a complete mismatch, embarrassment and then we get subsequent well-meaning but condescending posts like 'what a support you guys were, really loud' and the whole things just boils down to a piss-up in a City Square and airport selfies for those who travelled.

We had that sort of humiliation in Alkmaar and tomorrow night i want to see a United side who are worthy of wearing the badge on the continent. I want to see a professional, confident performance an obvious game plan and an attempt to also get forward and score.

These are huge nights for everyone with Dundee United in their heart, from the supporters in the stands in Vienna to the guy glued to a wireless doing the nightshift, to the two and three generations of family sitting watching it on the telly.

Mon United.

Well put.

I'll be the guy on nightshift checking his phone for the score every two minutes but I'm recording the game to watch when I get home in the morning. I hope to fuck it's worth waiting all night for!

kiwiarab · Yesterday 7:39 am

100% agree TEK

lifesanocean · Yesterday 8:26 am

Tek wrote:
Rapid's Press conference.

Very interesting. They seem to think United are very physical, they mention it numerous times.

They are giving us massive respect and have done their homework regards us it would seem. They talk about our games vs Una Strassen specifically.

They have a translator (who's Scottish).

The 'very physical' comment is the standard completely uninformed comment foreigners say about Scottish teams. The cunt has probably never seen us play. It's shite anyway, not just about United, but Scotland in general, we're the least physical/aggressive footballing nation going due to poor conditioning.

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Monny · Yesterday 9:48 am

lifesanocean wrote:
The 'very physical' comment is the standard completely uninformed comment foreigners say about Scottish teams. The cunt has probably never seen us play. It's shite anyway, not just about United, but Scotland in general, we're the least physical/aggressive footballing nation going due to poor conditioning.

He's saying we're a physical threat from set pieces, which is perfectly correct.

Tek · Yesterday 10:42 am

Monny wrote:
lifesanocean wrote:
The 'very physical' comment is the standard completely uninformed comment foreigners say about Scottish teams. The cunt has probably never seen us play. It's shite anyway, not just about United, but Scotland in general, we're the least physical/aggressive footballing nation going due to poor conditioning.
He's saying we're a physical threat from set pieces, which is perfectly correct.

That's how I took it too.

Something Rapid struggle at. They conceded a header from a corner at home to Decic.

Finn Seemann · Yesterday 11:15 am

Tek wrote:
Monny wrote:
lifesanocean wrote:
The 'very physical' comment is the standard completely uninformed comment foreigners say about Scottish teams. The cunt has probably never seen us play. It's shite anyway, not just about United, but Scotland in general, we're the least physical/aggressive footballing nation going due to poor conditioning.
He's saying we're a physical threat from set pieces, which is perfectly correct.
That's how I took it too.

Something Rapid struggle at. They conceded a header from a corner at home to Decic.

I'd definitely play KK then. Height he got for the goal in Differdange was quite impressive. Makes me think he'll go with the 3 CHs. We've got more pace in their now compared to last season.

redford_must_score · Yesterday 11:19 am

Tek wrote:
My one main hope for tomorrow night is it doesn't go the way of Scotland performances in major tournaments.

I.e. a complete mismatch, embarrassment and then we get subsequent well-meaning but condescending posts like 'what a support you guys were, really loud' and the whole things just boils down to a piss-up in a City Square and airport selfies for those who travelled.

We had that sort of humiliation in Alkmaar and tomorrow night i want to see a United side who are worthy of wearing the badge on the continent. I want to see a professional, confident performance an obvious game plan and an attempt to also get forward and score.

These are huge nights for everyone with Dundee United in their heart, from the supporters in the stands in Vienna to the guy glued to a wireless doing the nightshift, to the two and three generations of family sitting watching it on the telly.

Mon United.

Excellent post.
The only thing I would add to that is I want to see bravery on the ball, and channelled aggression in the tackle. Don't stand off them.

And maybe a wee bit of the dark arts when necessary, eg if they have a fast forward looking like he's going to cause us problems take turns at bringing him down.
Take yellows where necessary and fight like tigers.

Who knows, surprises have happened before, let's be one.

lifesanocean · Yesterday 1:02 pm

Finn Seemann wrote:
Tek wrote:
Monny wrote:
He's saying we're a physical threat from set pieces, which is perfectly correct.
That's how I took it too.

Something Rapid struggle at. They conceded a header from a corner at home to Decic.

I'd definitely play KK then. Height he got for the goal in Differdange was quite impressive. Makes me think he'll go with the 3 CHs. We've got more pace in their now compared to last season.

It was Iouvo who scored in Luxembourg but get the point.

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Macbonzo · Yesterday 1:27 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Tek wrote:
Rapid's Press conference.

Very interesting. They seem to think United are very physical, they mention it numerous times.

They are giving us massive respect and have done their homework regards us it would seem. They talk about our games vs Una Strassen specifically.

They have a translator (who's Scottish).

The 'very physical' comment is the standard completely uninformed comment foreigners say about Scottish teams. The cunt has probably never seen us play. It's shite anyway, not just about United, but Scotland in general, we're the least physical/aggressive footballing nation going due to poor conditioning.

Stoger is not an uninformed foreigner. On the contrary he is hugely experienced. Apart from managing a host of Austrian teams he has managed FC Koln, Borussia Dortmund and Ferencvaros. He will have done his homework on us.

I think we need to play to our strengths. The defence will very simply have to play better than they have ever played thus far. If we concede an early goal, we will need to reset very quickly.

On the positive side, the pressure is on them. Even if it ends 0-0, I still think we will struggle at Tannadice. I actually think we need to relax. I think an Ivan Golac “walk in the park” might be a good idea.

Finn Seemann · Yesterday 1:51 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
Tek wrote:

That's how I took it too.

Something Rapid struggle at. They conceded a header from a corner at home to Decic.

I'd definitely play KK then. Height he got for the goal in Differdange was quite impressive. Makes me think he'll go with the 3 CHs. We've got more pace in their now compared to last season.

It was Iouvo who scored in Luxembourg but get the point.

Ah - I'd had a few...

Morphman · Yesterday 10:24 pm

One of our all time great European results given the context, maybe 14 fit "first team" players, a goal down twice, 2 cracking goals. The first well made and the second an unbelievable finish.

Sibbald, Sapsford and Goodwin in particular can all take a bow

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SuperMario · Yesterday 10:28 pm

Colossus performance, sapsford and sibbald absolutely brilliant. Thought the Croatian on the wing when he came on was miles better.

Pappoe injury looks horrendous, looks like his season could be done.

We need signings in ASAP, really need to push the boat out now to get targets in. Our squad is completely depleted

redford_must_score · Yesterday 10:30 pm

An away performance in Europe genuinely reminiscent of the great United 80's sides. It's no exaggeration.

Every player a hero.

redford_must_score · Yesterday 10:38 pm

Let's get the concerns out of the way first.
On our left side we looked vulnerable all night. We need to strengthen there for the second leg.
Second off, we're running out of players. Take note Mr Ogren! Urgently.

The positives, I could write for days and break the internet. Sapsford especially, listened to his interview there, he's got ice in his veins. Watters, boy stands between the posts and scores goals eh?

Camara is giving Sibbald confidence and vice versa. I'll leave that there. And that back 3 are fucking immense.

Keeper done great too.

Woohoo, now destroy Hearts on Sunday boys 🧡

Billy_Hainey · Yesterday 10:48 pm

Eh missed the twa Una Stubbs gehms we being on holiday.

Didna think RV were brilliant. Their passing was very good, I'll say that, but we made their possession better by giving the ball away too often.

Great effort. Great result. Tak that any day oe the week. Looking forward to next week.

Of course we've got the Jambos to deal we 1st on Sunday,