LarsErikKjell wrote:

Watters out until mid-late October.

That’s a f*cking joke to be honest. Some questions have to start being asked about our medical team. Sapsford injury I can take as he was clattered. Two months out for a new signing who has a history of previous injuries is bullshit. Do they not look into potential signings’ medical history or are we just signing crocks and praying we get lucky?

LarsErikKjell wrote:

japanarab wrote:

LarsErikKjell wrote:

Watters out until mid-late October.

That’s a f*cking joke to be honest. Some questions have to start being asked about our medical team. Sapsford injury I can take as he was clattered. Two months out for a new signing who has a history of previous injuries is bullshit. Do they not look into potential signings’ medical history or are we just signing crocks and praying we get lucky?

 

Does he have a history of injuries?

 
Some guy on a forum said he does, so must be true.

There is a reasonable point here though. IF he and others do have a history of a particular kind of injury we should really be trying to tailor his training for that. Like we did with Webster and Wilkie.

japanarab wrote:

Slotbadger wrote:

LarsErikKjell wrote:

 

Does he have a history of injuries?

 
Some guy on a forum said he does, so must be true.

There is a reasonable point here though. IF he and others do have a history of a particular kind of injury we should really be trying to tailor his training for that. Like we did with Webster and Wilkie.

At least a couple of Barnsley fans said “better get used to him being on the treatment table more than the pitch.”

I’m pretty sure fans of a club he plays for would know if he’s been out injured multiple times or not. 
 

 
Barnsley fans also called him the worst striker they'd ever had, doing well on the pitch for us though. Hopefully continues when we get him back

Feb 2025 (Barnsley): Expected to miss 4–6 weeks with an ankle injury.


Oct 2024 (Barnsley): Out of action for six games due to injury.


Nov 2024 (Barnsley): Suffered a minor muscle issue and missed “a couple of weeks.”


Dec 2024 (Barnsley): Setback in his recovery, potentially missing much of the remainder of the year.

AI clears it up 

Definitely missed a lot of football for them and not started too well on that front for us. Hopefully his luck turns around after this injury.

AI also tells me that he missed no games from early 2022 until late 2024 which is a good run. Hopefully he gets the luck he needs to play regularly for the rest of the season. He was a loan signing so if it all goes wrong we can punt him back and get someone else in potentially.

japanarab wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

japanarab wrote:

At least a couple of Barnsley fans said “better get used to him being on the treatment table more than the pitch.”

I’m pretty sure fans of a club he plays for would know if he’s been out injured multiple times or not. 
 

 
Barnsley fans also called him the worst striker they'd ever had, doing well on the pitch for us though. Hopefully continues when we get him back

 
Saying he's the worst striker is just their opinion. Stating he's been out injured a lot is actual facts--which seems to being proved correct.
Out injured
Out through illness
Now out for two months---and he's been here for about a month.

Scored 4 goals whilst hardly being on the pitch then yes? Rather have that than another VDS myself tbh
 

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Mind Darren Jackson was out injured for 6 months after getting injured after signing for us?  That can also be seen as pish in anyone's eyes too, depending on how you view it.  

I reckon the fact we have so many hamstring issues is probably something to do with the training that the team do as a whole than the individuals.  I'm not an expert, but I don't see any other teams having so many players being hamstrung *ahem* by the same issue.

I also think that having such a small squad available to us, with so many important games in a very short space of time probably played a large part in his (and others) injury.

I think that the lad has to be cut some slack.

I'm not having a go at Watters. He's obviously no injuring himself. My point is more about our staff or medical team. It was known that Watters had previous then we sign him and sure enough he's out injured, back, then out injured again. It seems to be a recurring theme too. Add in the hamstring injuries and it's getting a bit of a big worry. WTF are they doing? Surely it can't all be "bad luck".

japanarab wrote:

I'm not having a go at Watters. He's obviously no injuring himself. My point is more about our staff or medical team. It was known that Watters had previous then we sign him and sure enough he's out injured, back, then out injured again. It seems to be a recurring theme too. Add in the hamstring injuries and it's getting a bit of a big worry. WTF are they doing? Surely it can't all be "bad luck".

 
If we look at our staff, we have:

Head of Medical:  Marcin Szostak (appointed by Mike Martin in 2018 from Thistle and before that St Mirren). From what I can gather he is a physiotherapist.

First Team Physiotherapist: Kevin Milne (Formerly Dundee, Arbroath). Worked in NHS, BSc MSc with specialist interest in rehabilitation.

Head of Sports Science: Ewan Anderson (Seems well qualified enough, but, meteoric rise through the previous regime)

First Team Strength and
Conditioning coach :     Allan Gartshore (From the University of St Andrews. One of his many jobs)

So what do they all do? Is it a case of they are reactive i.e. player gets injured and they are sent for treatment? They don’t see it as their role to advise coaching staff on player vulnerabilities and appropriate training techniques?

Or they do try to advise, but are ignored by the coaching staff who think they know better?

Or is it just another example of “jobs for the boys” from the previous regime who have grandiose titles but are largely out of their depth?

I really don’t know, but, as was said,  back in 2010 we had tailored training for both Lee Wilkie and Andy Webster.

United Arab Emarite wrote:

And to think that in the 60s Andy Dickson did all 4 jobs.
Mind you, there were never any injuries then so the job(s) would have been a whole lot easier!

Was thinking this earlier. I can't remember teams having many injuries until about the 2000s. 2010s. You'd have one guy out maybe for a month or so, the rest were almost always available.

Not convinced that most of the sport science stuff isn't bullshit.

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Hen Broon wrote:

United Arab Emarite wrote:

And to think that in the 60s Andy Dickson did all 4 jobs.
Mind you, there were never any injuries then so the job(s) would have been a whole lot easier!

Was thinking this earlier. I can't remember teams having many injuries until about the 2000s. 2010s. You'd have one guy out maybe for a month or so, the rest were almost always available.

Not convinced that most of the sport science stuff isn't bullshit.

 
I think a few pints after the match and 30 a day would steel these lads up a bit tbh 🤣🤣

 
There's a cracking pic taken in the dressing room after the 60's home victory against Barca. The beers are flowing and a few fags lit too 😆

redford_must_score wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Hen Broon wrote:

Was thinking this earlier. I can't remember teams having many injuries until about the 2000s. 2010s. You'd have one guy out maybe for a month or so, the rest were almost always available.

Not convinced that most of the sport science stuff isn't bullshit.

 
I think a few pints after the match and 30 a day would steel these lads up a bit tbh 🤣🤣

 
There's a cracking pic taken in the dressing room after the 60's home victory against Barca. The beers are flowing and a few fags lit too 😆

 Then home for a red pudding supper no doubt 😋

2 sleeps to the Derby and we're debating suppers 😆