Tekel Towers » United vs Rangers

Tek · 24/1/2025 12:11 am

We gave them far too much respect in the last meeting at Tannadice. Want to see us really have a go at them on Sunday from the first minute. Fuck this trying to contain them in the first half and growing into the game.

Four at the back. Play with width and get as many balls into the box for our Strikers as possible.

What would be your starting XI and formation for Sunday?

United Arab Emarite · 24/1/2025 1:54 pm

Graham Holt Gallacher at the back
Strain Ferry wing backs
Sevelj Stephenson mids
Trapanowski & Middleton wings
Paton up top
Go at them down the wings, give it width
#hithebyeline
Dalby (if he's still here) & Manny benched

David_Blunkett · 24/1/2025 2:50 pm

We should definitely as the home team have far more of a go than we did last time, but sensibly.

Almost man for man, they have better players than we have, so have to be a bit cautious.

Goodwin won't set us up to really go at them, but his usual keep it tight stance, we won't get away with the lapses of concentration that we saw v Dundee, everyone needs to be at it.

lifesanocean · 24/1/2025 3:11 pm

Walton

Strain
Gallagher
Holt
Ferry

Sevelj
Stephenson

Middleton
Babunski
Trapanovski

Dalby

MockChop · 24/1/2025 4:01 pm

Start Moult & Paton.

Set up to attack using width.

SuperMario · 24/1/2025 6:17 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Walton

Strain
Gallagher
Holt
Ferry

Sevelj
Stephenson

Middleton
Babunski
Trapanovski

Dalby

Exactly same as what I’d play

Macho Man · 24/1/2025 6:30 pm

Walton

Strain Gallagher Holt Ferry

Trapanovski Sevelj Stephenson Middleton

Dalby Paton

Wingers switching wings constantly to keep things changing.

RogerTheAlien · 25/1/2025 1:18 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Walton

Strain
Gallagher
Holt
Ferry

Sevelj
Stephenson

Middleton
Babunski
Trapanovski

Dalby

Pretty much bang on what I’d go with.

Stillliving · 25/1/2025 2:03 pm

I think JG is more likely to go with the formation that frustrated Celtic at Tannadice.
3-4-3 which usually ends up more like
5-3-2.
Doubling up in the wide areas with 2CMs Babunski wouldn't be any where near my starting 11 as I don't think he has had a decent game since about September.

Arab87 · 25/1/2025 4:03 pm

Sevco like to play a 4231. I would play a 433 and push our full backs up onto their wide players

My team would be:

Walton

Strain Gallagher Holt Ferry

Stephenson Sevelj Fiorini

Thompson/Kai Dalby/Paton Middleton/Trap

Playing a 3 up front would help prevent Jefte and Tavarnier getting forward more. One centre half to mark their striker and the other mops up any danger.

Last edited by Arab87 (25/1/2025 4:04 pm)

CCX2 2010 · 25/1/2025 6:11 pm

An excellent set of results for us today, a win tomorrow would see us open up 5 point lead in 3rd which would is a extra motivation, not that we should need any all the same.

I'm for playing it cagey and staying in the game, they will still field a very strong line up.

Dalby and Paton up front from the start with Moult from the bench.

Mani if given the chance to bounce back will need to step up, we will find out a hell of a lot about the young man.

Fingers crossed Docherty makes it although I am not getting my hopes up.

redford_must_score · 25/1/2025 6:32 pm

CCX2 2010 wrote:
An excellent set of results for us today, a win tomorrow would see us open up 5 point lead in 3rd which would is a extra motivation, not that we should need any all the same.

I'm for playing it cagey and staying in the game, they will still field a very strong line up.

Dalby and Paton up front from the start with Moult from the bench.

Mani if given the chance to bounce back will need to step up, we will find out a hell of a lot about the young man.

Fingers crossed Docherty makes it although I am not getting my hopes up.

This is what I'm thinking. Docherty would give us a much better chance of some control in midfield.
Couldn't believe he started Dalby and Moult in the cup without any wingers, that's a last 20 minutes thing, with wingers.

Honestly I'm expecting a defeat, anything else and I'll hold my hands up for being a negative Norman.

Saying that, we do have the potential to beat them it's whether we can unlock it.

Arabdownsouth · 25/1/2025 6:59 pm

redford_must_score wrote:
CCX2 2010 wrote:
An excellent set of results for us today, a win tomorrow would see us open up 5 point lead in 3rd which would is a extra motivation, not that we should need any all the same.

I'm for playing it cagey and staying in the game, they will still field a very strong line up.

Dalby and Paton up front from the start with Moult from the bench.

Mani if given the chance to bounce back will need to step up, we will find out a hell of a lot about the young man.

Fingers crossed Docherty makes it although I am not getting my hopes up.

This is what I'm thinking. Docherty would give us a much better chance of some control in midfield.
Couldn't believe he started Dalby and Moult in the cup without any wingers, that's a last 20 minutes thing, with wingers.

Honestly I'm expecting a defeat, anything else and I'll hold my hands up for being a negative Norman.

Saying that, we do have the potential to beat them it's whether we can unlock it.

Always preferred a Storming Norman myself 😋

redford_must_score · 25/1/2025 9:22 pm

Arabdownsouth wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
CCX2 2010 wrote:
An excellent set of results for us today, a win tomorrow would see us open up 5 point lead in 3rd which would is a extra motivation, not that we should need any all the same.

I'm for playing it cagey and staying in the game, they will still field a very strong line up.

Dalby and Paton up front from the start with Moult from the bench.

Mani if given the chance to bounce back will need to step up, we will find out a hell of a lot about the young man.

Fingers crossed Docherty makes it although I am not getting my hopes up.

This is what I'm thinking. Docherty would give us a much better chance of some control in midfield.
Couldn't believe he started Dalby and Moult in the cup without any wingers, that's a last 20 minutes thing, with wingers.

Honestly I'm expecting a defeat, anything else and I'll hold my hands up for being a negative Norman.

Saying that, we do have the potential to beat them it's whether we can unlock it.

Always preferred a Storming Norman myself 😋

Tek is right with his opening post, we gave them too much respect in the first match. I fully expect us to do the same tomorrow.
They're beatable but we need to show ambition before we're 1-0 down not afterwards.
I would compromise and try to keep it tight for 20-30 then open up more towards half time and see if we can get in at the break ahead for once.
An ideal scenario is them throwing everyone forward to get level so we can hit them on the break for a second.

Will we show that ambition to win or will we set up to play for a 0-0.

United Arab Emarite · 26/1/2025 11:53 am

Somebody likes us, that's the shortest odds for us I've seen v the Huns in a decade.
We're 4/1 for a home win. Generally we're as long as 8/1 or 10/1.
Tells you they are shite so we should back the optimism & believe in ourselves.

Stillliving · 26/1/2025 12:00 pm

We definitely need to be more aggressive and pro active from the start today than we were the last time the New Rangers were at Tannadice.
However all this talk of opening up and having a go is unwise.
Hibs tried that a few weeks ago and were 2-0 down before the had even started.
When Rangers dominate the ball in the early stages hopefully there will be calm in the home stands.
This is a game the Terrors can win but we have to go about it In the right way

Last edited by Stillliving (26/1/2025 12:02 pm)

redford_must_score · 26/1/2025 1:58 pm

In a first half where there were hardly any stoppages, just a brief injury delay for 2 Newco players to get off the deck we get 3 minutes of added time.
I suppose this is normal against them.
Plus think he's booked Ferry on mistaken identity.

redford_must_score · 26/1/2025 3:17 pm

Very disappointed with that. We looked jaded from about 35 minutes as Newco started to impose themselves. And that feeling of being less energetic and mobile than them didn't change.
Thought we made so many poor decisions with the ball in the final third, if we could fix that we'd be some team.
Time and time again we chose the wrong pass or lost the ball when it was there for us.
Felt we should have been changing things much earlier. Stephenson in particular isn't at the races at the moment.
But when you're hitting woodwork and the breaks in front of goal aren't going in you know it's not your day.
Frustrating because if we had managed to get it to 2-2 we might have got a result.

And don't get me started on Dochertys latest absence. Get him out the door the minute that contract ends.

Last edited by redford_must_score (26/1/2025 3:35 pm)

Morphman · 26/1/2025 3:43 pm

Mixed thoughts on today, brave of Jim to go 442 at home and I respect him lining up in such a manner. At the same time, from about the half hour mark as Rangers started to shake off the weariness from midweek, I felt 2 in the middle caused us to lose the midfield battle and we never really recovered the rest of the game.

Felt Stephenson and Sevelj didn't have their best games but think the set up didn't work in their favour particularly as Igamane started to drop in to the gaps they were leaving.

I was surprised when Moult and Trap came on. I thought we might sacrifice Paton for Babunski or Fiorini to try add an extra man and the middle and maybe force rangers centre midfield to drop deeper if we went 433. Instead we let them really start to pick the passes in the gaps between our midfield and forwards.

On the same side of the coin we hit the post 3 times (mightve been 4) and other than the the goals they scored, and the two excellent saves before half time, Walton wasn't actually troubled that much. If we take our chances perhaps it's a different game.

Stillliving · 26/1/2025 4:04 pm

Up till the Sevco equaliser it looked like it was going to be our day. But goals change games
Rangers better players turned up today particularly the 2nd half. Raskin, Imgame & Dessers are a level above what we have at Tannadice.
We have created less in games and won but today the better team won.
Heads up for next week's game on the Killie carpet.

Slotbadger · 26/1/2025 5:40 pm

Really good game. Thought both teams went for it. We really need to try and stop letting away teams get half the ground. It was brilliant at the new years game V aberdeen. Maybe the club could make a statement they want to keep the shed for United fans Vs the old firm and try for a couple of games to see if we can fill it?

We should have been 2 or 3 up in first half. They got a goal out of nothing and then a deflection. Those 2 goals either side of Half time changed the game. For me we were unlucky not to get a point. How that one off the inside of the post never went in a still Don’t know. I was still celebrating the goal until I heard the huns slagging us off…

Few small gripes. Kai was way off it. Slow to make decisions, making wrong decisions and thought he had more time than he did. Still tried hard.

Especially 2nd half the pace of the 2 centre backs against the old firm players was exposed a lot. Maybe need an old head/young guy aspiring moving forward Vs the old firm.

CCX2 2010 · 26/1/2025 5:46 pm

Those calling for us to be more on the front foot and urging us to have a go, certainly got their wish today. On another day we could have got something but it wasn't to be.

For me though, from how I see it for the umpteenth time ( even when we win sometimes) we really really needed to strengthen in the middle the park.

That was where the game was lost today, that and a very good performance from Igaman who was very hard to mark today, boy stood out a mile for me from them today.

4-4-2 was a bold choice for me, and we can pick the bones out of it all day but we were wide open through the middle and all the pacey strikers in the world won't stop that.

I thought Goodwin got it wrong today, personnel and the formation. 4-5-1 sit tight like every other team in the league have shown and they can't break you down. Give then a bit of room like they get away from home in Europe and they have proved they can play.

Big Dalby done well but gave it away far too easy for the third goal, feck knows how Trapa missed that chance.

Will Ferry again put in another great performance, I think we are already watching his final games in a United jersey, enjoy him whilst he is still here.

JGTA.

lifesanocean · 26/1/2025 5:51 pm

Morphman wrote:
Mixed thoughts on today, brave of Jim to go 442 at home and I respect him lining up in such a manner. At the same time, from about the half hour mark as Rangers started to shake off the weariness from midweek, I felt 2 in the middle caused us to lose the midfield battle and we never really recovered the rest of the game.

Felt Stephenson and Sevelj didn't have their best games but think the set up didn't work in their favour particularly as Igamane started to drop in to the gaps they were leaving.

I was surprised when Moult and Trap came on. I thought we might sacrifice Paton for Babunski or Fiorini to try add an extra man and the middle and maybe force rangers centre midfield to drop deeper if we went 433. Instead we let them really start to pick the passes in the gaps between our midfield and forwards.

On the same side of the coin we hit the post 3 times (mightve been 4) and other than the the goals they scored, and the two excellent saves before half time, Walton wasn't actually troubled that much. If we take our chances perhaps it's a different game.

Agree with this 100%. Spot on.

CCX2 2010 · 26/1/2025 5:57 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Morphman wrote:
Mixed thoughts on today, brave of Jim to go 442 at home and I respect him lining up in such a manner. At the same time, from about the half hour mark as Rangers started to shake off the weariness from midweek, I felt 2 in the middle caused us to lose the midfield battle and we never really recovered the rest of the game.

Felt Stephenson and Sevelj didn't have their best games but think the set up didn't work in their favour particularly as Igamane started to drop in to the gaps they were leaving.

I was surprised when Moult and Trap came on. I thought we might sacrifice Paton for Babunski or Fiorini to try add an extra man and the middle and maybe force rangers centre midfield to drop deeper if we went 433. Instead we let them really start to pick the passes in the gaps between our midfield and forwards.

On the same side of the coin we hit the post 3 times (mightve been 4) and other than the the goals they scored, and the two excellent saves before half time, Walton wasn't actually troubled that much. If we take our chances perhaps it's a different game.
Agree with this 100%. Spot on.

Yip, absolutely on the money.

David_Blunkett · 26/1/2025 7:08 pm

3-1, where the killer goal comes late, after at least having a go, is preferable to to the passive pish last time at home v them.

They're bigger, better, stronger than us, but setting out to not lose v them only usually ends one way.

Results went our way on a weekend where we played one of the arsecheeks, we've only one more game pre split v = Celtic, so shouldn't fear anyone else.