Tekel Towers » McNulty

Tek · 04/10/2021 10:41 pm

Reportedly needing an operation on his hamstring and supposedly out for months.

Guessing that will be his loan terminated.

Finn Seemann · 04/10/2021 10:58 pm

Has to be really. If he needs an op that could be 3+ months.

Arabdownsouth · 05/10/2021 7:03 am

Can we actually terminate it? I'm not sure what the rules are for this situation tbh

Finn Seemann · 05/10/2021 8:11 am

Arabdownsouth wrote:
Can we actually terminate it? I'm not sure what the rules are for this situation tbh

It'll be totally dependent on the contract we've signed with Reading I suspect. The fact that he doesn't seem to have a future there might mean that they offload injury risks to us - it's not as if they'll be that bothered if he stays fit.

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nomad · 05/10/2021 3:15 pm

The other option is to try and sign him now while he is injured. Not sure how much sense that would make. Depends how good a deal we could get for taking on that risk I guess.

Personally I would pass, but not opposed to it if that is what came to pass.

Finn Seemann · 05/10/2021 4:24 pm

nomad wrote:
The other option is to try and sign him now while he is injured. Not sure how much sense that would make. Depends how good a deal we could get for taking on that risk I guess.

Personally I would pass, but not opposed to it if that is what came to pass.

I'd fall into the not for me category too, but I guess if insurers are covering his wages buying out the rest of his contract might suddenly become affordable.

Tek · 05/10/2021 5:22 pm

nomad wrote:
The other option is to try and sign him now while he is injured. Not sure how much sense that would make. Depends how good a deal we could get for taking on that risk I guess.

Personally I would pass, but not opposed to it if that is what came to pass.

I think i'd pass.

Been here a year now and let's be honest he's had one good game.

CCX2 2010 · 05/10/2021 6:43 pm

nomad wrote:
The other option is to try and sign him now while he is injured. Not sure how much sense that would make. Depends how good a deal we could get for taking on that risk I guess.

Personally I would pass, but not opposed to it if that is what came to pass.

Not for me, works his arse off when we haven't got the ball but doesn't do enough when we have it.

Marginally better than Ckark but I would guess on a much bigger wage.

There has got to be better out there than Mark McNulty.

Beharder · 05/10/2021 7:48 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
I know we didn't give Shankland great service last season but I got fed up watching the body language that showed he wanted out. Contrast that with McNulty, who also didn't get good service and also was played out of position last season, but still was delighted to come back. I think we are a better team without Shankland - I'm not dismissing his ability or goal-scoring contributions but I always felt we were 10 guys plus Shankland, and he was only there temporarily. Now we feel like 11 guys, which speaks volumes when you consider that McNulty is on loan to us.

I think McNulty has been a key part of our high press this season. He might not have got on the goal trail yet but he contributes enough in other ways that I wouldn't be against keeping him. I certainly wouldn't want us to try and offload him because of this injury, which he suffered chasing down a ball for us - not for Reading. I'd be interested to see what sort of a two-up-top partnership he could build with the French lad, if he comes. Big strong lad plus wee nippy lad. Daly and Russell-esque?

I would agree with that CA its not really the sign of a club with any class to bin a player because he gets injured .
Also agree about your Shankland point although not many do. He was excellent in the 2nd division but was a yard short of pace to be a success in the top flight this lead to a lot of his frustration and negative body language.

Tek · 05/10/2021 8:01 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
I know we didn't give Shankland great service last season but I got fed up watching the body language that showed he wanted out. Contrast that with McNulty, who also didn't get good service and also was played out of position last season, but still was delighted to come back. I think we are a better team without Shankland - I'm not dismissing his ability or goal-scoring contributions but I always felt we were 10 guys plus Shankland, and he was only there temporarily. Now we feel like 11 guys, which speaks volumes when you consider that McNulty is on loan to us.

I think McNulty has been a key part of our high press this season. He might not have got on the goal trail yet but he contributes enough in other ways that I wouldn't be against keeping him. I certainly wouldn't want us to try and offload him because of this injury, which he suffered chasing down a ball for us - not for Reading. I'd be interested to see what sort of a two-up-top partnership he could build with the French lad, if he comes. Big strong lad plus wee nippy lad. Daly and Russell-esque?

I thought we looked a better team at Parkhead last week minus Marc McNulty.

In fact i think we would have won the game if we had a proper Striker in our XI.

Tek · 05/10/2021 8:03 pm

Beharder wrote:
Canadian Arab wrote:
I know we didn't give Shankland great service last season but I got fed up watching the body language that showed he wanted out. Contrast that with McNulty, who also didn't get good service and also was played out of position last season, but still was delighted to come back. I think we are a better team without Shankland - I'm not dismissing his ability or goal-scoring contributions but I always felt we were 10 guys plus Shankland, and he was only there temporarily. Now we feel like 11 guys, which speaks volumes when you consider that McNulty is on loan to us.

I think McNulty has been a key part of our high press this season. He might not have got on the goal trail yet but he contributes enough in other ways that I wouldn't be against keeping him. I certainly wouldn't want us to try and offload him because of this injury, which he suffered chasing down a ball for us - not for Reading. I'd be interested to see what sort of a two-up-top partnership he could build with the French lad, if he comes. Big strong lad plus wee nippy lad. Daly and Russell-esque?

I would agree with that CA its not really the sign of a club with any class to bin a player because he gets injured .
Also agree about your Shankland point although not many do. He was excellent in the 2nd division but was a yard short of pace to be a success in the top flight this lead to a lot of his frustration and negative body language.

He's not our player though Beharder, he's Reading's.

If he's out for more than 2 or 3 months we are quite within our rights to send him back there to start his recovery.

Tek · 05/10/2021 9:24 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
Tek wrote:
I thought we looked a better team at Parkhead last week minus Marc McNulty.

In fact i think we would have won the game if we had a proper Striker in our XI.

We did play well last week, but we were also minus regular starters Charlie Mulgrew, Liam Smith and Butcher. I'd say the midfield triangle of Fuchs, Levitt and Harkes (i.e. missing Butcher), who were involved in everything we did, may be more responsible for our improved play than the absence of McNulty. Maybe McNulty would have given us a bit more goal threat than Nicky Clark?

I seriously doubt it CA. Neither are good enough to start for us regularly if we are being honest.

Lowest scorers in the league last season and they were a part of that (so was Shankland fwiw).

We need better upfront and hopefully Biamou is the start of a better standard of Striker at the club.

Beharder · 05/10/2021 9:29 pm

Tek wrote:
Beharder wrote:
Canadian Arab wrote:
I know we didn't give Shankland great service last season but I got fed up watching the body language that showed he wanted out. Contrast that with McNulty, who also didn't get good service and also was played out of position last season, but still was delighted to come back. I think we are a better team without Shankland - I'm not dismissing his ability or goal-scoring contributions but I always felt we were 10 guys plus Shankland, and he was only there temporarily. Now we feel like 11 guys, which speaks volumes when you consider that McNulty is on loan to us.

I think McNulty has been a key part of our high press this season. He might not have got on the goal trail yet but he contributes enough in other ways that I wouldn't be against keeping him. I certainly wouldn't want us to try and offload him because of this injury, which he suffered chasing down a ball for us - not for Reading. I'd be interested to see what sort of a two-up-top partnership he could build with the French lad, if he comes. Big strong lad plus wee nippy lad. Daly and Russell-esque?

I would agree with that CA its not really the sign of a club with any class to bin a player because he gets injured .
Also agree about your Shankland point although not many do. He was excellent in the 2nd division but was a yard short of pace to be a success in the top flight this lead to a lot of his frustration and negative body language.
He's not our player though Beharder, he's Reading's.

If he's out for more than 2 or 3 months we are quite within our rights to send him back there to start his recovery.

Yes we would be within our rights to send him back. However he injured himself on the pitch doing his best for the club. If he got injured falling out of a nightclub that might be a different story.

Tek · 05/10/2021 10:00 pm

Beharder wrote:
Tek wrote:
Beharder wrote:

I would agree with that CA its not really the sign of a club with any class to bin a player because he gets injured .
Also agree about your Shankland point although not many do. He was excellent in the 2nd division but was a yard short of pace to be a success in the top flight this lead to a lot of his frustration and negative body language.
He's not our player though Beharder, he's Reading's.

If he's out for more than 2 or 3 months we are quite within our rights to send him back there to start his recovery.

Yes we would be within our rights to send him back. However he injured himself on the pitch doing his best for the club. If he got injured falling out of a nightclub that might be a different story.

I guess it will depend on how long he's out for. But if it's say 6 months, there really isn't much point in him sticking around. Might be Reading's choice anyway.

When Declan Glass got injured i'm pretty sure it would have been Utd who requested the loan was terminated so we could administer his recovery and how it was carried out. Albeit that was a more serious injury.

06/10/2021 7:45 am

CCX2 in post no 8 says there has got to be better out there than Mark McNulty.
Well I'm not so sure, we're not the only club scouring for a striker and that they don't emerge is proof enough.
Not on our budget anyway, we're obviously looking in the bargain basement.
If you want a guaranteed 20-goal striker then you're needing to pay at least 5 times what we can afford.
Meanwhile we & everyone else is searching for that diamond in the haystack.
Strikers mean points.

Solution - breed your own. Academy - I give you two seasons.

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CCX2 2010 · 06/10/2021 8:01 pm

Totally agree with your grow your own Ferguson, Goodie and Russell were all special players that I have watched in my years of following United and they all came through the youth system.

Regarding budgets I am not for a second going to even pretend I know how much we pay but from what I have seen albeit from a PC and a couple of games this season I am less than impressed with McNulty.

While a 20 goal a season striker would be lovely I would settle for 10, and I doubt he would have managed that. I don't think anyone in Scotland at present has a 20 goal per season striker.

Hopefully Max will be the guy to score 10+ for us, he certainly knows where the net it going by his Coventry montage.

Beardy23 · 06/10/2021 9:01 pm

looking at what we have had from the academy recently it seems they only turn out centre halfs and 5 a side players who want to play no10

Aberdeen Arab · 07/10/2021 4:28 am

McNulty is no world beater but a quick reminder for all those writing him off - he hadn’t had a pre-season so despite missing the 1 on 1 v St. Mirren and other good chances since coming back, he’s been flung straight in to 4 games.

Thought he worked his arse off in those games too. Hopefully his injury isn’t as bad as feared and we can have him back playing (for the first time in his united career) in his preferred position with another striker that suits his game.

07/10/2021 8:14 am

Agreed AA, the boy's got pedigree. His CV is very impressive. Has he lost it? No, I don't think so. His effort & attitude on the pitch is there to see. I hope he's not out for too long cos the sooner he's back scoring goals & regaining his confidence the better. And what if he & Biamou hit it off together? The Coventry Club. Fan's favourite by the season end is my prediction.