Depends on season ticket sales and the sponsorship thats not being renewed

Other than thon boy in Edinburgh who has security over Tannadice, what other creditors do the club have?

SlatefordArab wrote:

Other than thon boy in Edinburgh who has security over Tannadice, what other creditors do the club have?

The only person with security over Tannadice is Hugh Duncan.

The only other loan that I am aware of  is the £200k one that is apparently in the latest accounts and in the absence of any info to the contrary will be unsecured  - will need to wait on the accounts going on-line to get more detail
 

If all Season Ticket holders were to avoid renewing this calendar year, then in round terms the Club would lose £1.5M to £2M quid. That's one hell of a downfall for forward financial planning for next Season, and yes it would hit the Club badly, and completely phuck-up the playing budget for our Manager.

It's playing with fire if you ask me.

Billy_Hainey wrote:

If all Season Ticket holders were to avoid renewing this calendar year, then in round terms the Club would lose £1.5M to £2M quid. That's one hell of a downfall for forward financial planning for next Season, and yes it would hit the Club badly, and completely phuck-up the playing budget for our Manager.

It's playing with fire if you ask me.

If any fan doesn't renew because they don't trust Thompson that is their right to do so, too much is being put on the fans it's absolutely scandalous.
We dug deep buying 4000 adult season tickets and big cash gates this season........what has our leader done apart from borrowing more money and not making the needed cuts at Tannadice.

Poor to put a guilt trip on us
 

Arab_plumber wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Arab_plumber wrote:

Depends on season ticket sales and the sponsorship thats not being renewed

 
reading this and putting your early comments about buying season tickets looks like like you see administration as acceptable collateral damage if it gets rid off ST.  Putting your hatred of Thompson above the wellbeing of the club?

Nothing like making stuff up to suit your anti FU agenda

I've never said or hinted I want the club to enter administration to get rid of Thompson.

If fans decide not to buy season tickets can our leader have any complaints given his silence  and mismanagement? ????
 

 AP I have no agenda pro or anti FU.
I'm looking at this from a what happens next point of view.
You predicted yourself that admin depends on next years season ticket sales, so what will happen if you persuade enough people to follow your groups example?
I will take your advice and back the team, hopefully a team assembled with a budget that gives us a chance for 2017-18

I can't see what FU Facebook says as I've no access to it. Don't do Twitter but can usually view it, maybe I'm doing it wrong.

My introduction to FU is mainly on here and Mad and I'm interested but worried that thousands of potential backers might be put off a potentially good opportunity to back change by a bad 1st impression and argumentative response to Arabs asking questions about FU.

I know good Arabs with opposite opinions on Fridays protest and can't disagree too much with eithers' thinking but worry those not onside with FU so far will become entrenched before on board and put off by nippy replies to reasonable questions.

I'm only talking about TT & Mad as that's all I've access to. I've read stuff about agendas, paranoia about new posters, secret journos etc and whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion I hope the next load of recruitment for FU can Unite, inform and recruit better.

Need to drop the nippy replies and concentrate on moving forward.

This could have started better maybe or maybe the impact is bigger with a controversial introduction. Who knows!?

Clean slate and good link to plan and ideas needed for sure (for me anyway) and conversation to be explored and  allowed without putting off Arabs who might well join with insults, put downs and accusations.

HeggyHandshake wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Arab_plumber wrote:

Nothing like making stuff up to suit your anti FU agenda

I've never said or hinted I want the club to enter administration to get rid of Thompson.

If fans decide not to buy season tickets can our leader have any complaints given his silence  and mismanagement? ????
 

 AP I have no agenda pro or anti FU.
I'm looking at this from a what happens next point of view.
You predicted yourself that admin depends on next years season ticket sales, so what will happen if you persuade enough people to follow your groups example?
I will take your advice and back the team, hopefully a team assembled with a budget that gives us a chance for 2017-18

Only been to a couple of meetings but I've no idea where you get the 'follow your groups example' from??

One of the guys speaking actually said he hated the word 'boycott' when asked about ST boycott and should be an individuals choice although most were saying they wouldn't be getting one even though they had been a ST holder for 20,30 years.
 

 ok fair enough HH there is no group policy not to buy season tickets. Im looking at what happens next, what do you forsee happening  if as you say most of the group dont renew their season ticket.
At best the team will be weaker. Im struggling to see why this will make it more likely that ST will leave

HeggyHandshake wrote:

Is ST hanging onto his Chairman role for anything other than cash?? If there is none there, does he have a reason to stay??

 
Is he not looking for somebody to buy the club off him?  if we sell 4000   3000   2000 seasons tickets  i dont see how that will hasten his departure , it will make the team worse thats for sure. Is he not here until somebody buys his shares, thats his reason to stay

Arabnophobia wrote:

I can't see what FU Facebook says as I've no access to it. Don't do Twitter but can usually view it, maybe I'm doing it wrong.

My introduction to FU is mainly on here and Mad and I'm interested but worried that thousands of potential backers might be put off a potentially good opportunity to back change by a bad 1st impression and argumentative response to Arabs asking questions about FU.

I know good Arabs with opposite opinions on Fridays protest and can't disagree too much with eithers' thinking but worry those not onside with FU so far will become entrenched before on board and put off by nippy replies to reasonable questions.

I'm only talking about TT & Mad as that's all I've access to. I've read stuff about agendas, paranoia about new posters, secret journos etc and whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion I hope the next load of recruitment for FU can Unite, inform and recruit better.

Need to drop the nippy replies and concentrate on moving forward.

This could have started better maybe or maybe the impact is bigger with a controversial introduction. Who knows!?

Clean slate and good link to plan and ideas needed for sure (for me anyway) and conversation to be explored and  allowed without putting off Arabs who might well join with insults, put downs and accusations.

Good post.

 

I never bought a season ticket this season (first time in 30 years) because I don't like the way Thompson is running the club and I didn't want to give him money upfront as he pisses me off always playing to guilt card, if Thompson sold up tomorrow I would buy two season tickets for next year as soon as his car left the car park. 

scarpia wrote:

SlatefordArab wrote:

Other than thon boy in Edinburgh who has security over Tannadice, what other creditors do the club have?

The only person with security over Tannadice is Hugh Duncan.

The only other loan that I am aware of is the £200k one that is apparently in the latest accounts and in the absence of any info to the contrary will be unsecured - will need to wait on the accounts going on-line to get more detail
 

Yep, that's the point I was getting at - as far as I am aware, and I am more than happy to be corrected on this as I am in no way a financial expert, but if Hugh Duncan and the Thompson clan are the only creditors then surely admin is unlikely?