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02/7/2023 12:27 am  #1


Twitter

Musk is gonna monetise it isn't he?

 

02/7/2023 11:24 am  #2


Re: Twitter

Musk needs to get some Mitsubishi’s and chill oot


KTF
 

02/7/2023 3:56 pm  #3


Re: Twitter

Tek wrote:

Musk is gonna monetise it isn't he?

 
The first thing, is, that Musk didn’t want to buy Twitter. A Delaware Court would have forced him to buy it, hence, the issue was forced. The fact that Twitter shares rallied 32% on the announcement, suggests that investors considered Musk could improve the business.

Musk has stated that social media platforms are becoming a Mecca for people to spout polarised views on everything. I think he is correct. Even terrestrial TV stations like BBC and ITV, base their content on what will get ratings. Why would you lead with Philip Scofield for days, when 300 people die in a rail crash in India? A fair number of friends on my Twitter feed think the BBC are anti Scottish.

Musk wants to make Twitter a proper debating form where polarised views are marginalised. Obviously if he succeeds, it will be much more attractive to advertisers.

Last edited by Macbonzo (02/7/2023 3:57 pm)

 

25/7/2023 10:29 am  #4


Re: Twitter

Musk has made a total bollock of Twitter IMO.  Its went from being a simple, txt based news feed, into a hate filled death scroll of trolls and tinfoil hat wearers.    What he did with the verification system was just plain stupid.   So many  Tweets from previously interesting account now filled with replies from trolls.

Now with his plans to turn it into X - appears he wants to turn it into something like WeChat in China.

A real shame.  The guy should put himself into one of his rockets and fire himself at Mars.

Last edited by SlatefordArab (25/7/2023 11:51 am)

 

20/9/2023 1:19 am  #5


Re: Twitter

Tek wrote:

Musk is gonna monetise it isn't he?

And there we have it. Six weeks later. 

That will be the end of what was once a great platform.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts


 

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20/9/2023 8:22 am  #6


Re: Twitter

Tek wrote:

Tek wrote:

Musk is gonna monetise it isn't he?

And there we have it. Six weeks later. 

That will be the end of what was once a great platform.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts


 

 
Firstly, I have to confess, that, I am a big Musk fan. It wasn’t always that way. For at least three years I did not think he was fit to be CEO of anything. In Tesla he has created a product which is infinitely superior to its competitors. The battery and the charging system are so good, the competition has to use them. I would compare it to Apple

People get accustomed to a certain format and understandably resist change. (I still hate online banking). Changing the logo to “X” possibly was not a great idea, but, I doubt people will go elsewhere.

In terms of “monetising” the product, I’m actually not sure that’s what Musk is trying to do. Unlike Mark Ogren, The Glazers, 777 etc, I actually believe him when he says that it is about eliminating the bots. As I said, previously, I think Musk genuinely wants to create a superior “debating” platform.

Musk really is not motivated by money. People who think he is, really don’t understand the person.

 

25/9/2023 7:03 am  #7


Re: Twitter

Macbonzo wrote:

Tek wrote:

Tek wrote:

Musk is gonna monetise it isn't he?

And there we have it. Six weeks later. 

That will be the end of what was once a great platform.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/19/elon-musk-twitter-x-subscription-fees-users-posts


 

 
Firstly, I have to confess, that, I am a big Musk fan. It wasn’t always that way. For at least three years I did not think he was fit to be CEO of anything. In Tesla he has created a product which is infinitely superior to its competitors. The battery and the charging system are so good, the competition has to use them. I would compare it to Apple

People get accustomed to a certain format and understandably resist change. (I still hate online banking). Changing the logo to “X” possibly was not a great idea, but, I doubt people will go elsewhere.

In terms of “monetising” the product, I’m actually not sure that’s what Musk is trying to do. Unlike Mark Ogren, The Glazers, 777 etc, I actually believe him when he says that it is about eliminating the bots. As I said, previously, I think Musk genuinely wants to create a superior “debating” platform.

Musk really is not motivated by money. People who think he is, really don’t understand the person.

What is your opinion on what he did with the verification system?  As I mentioned in my previous post, there were so many interesting accounts on Twitter who's top replies are now full of crypto-bros, trolls and conspiracy theory loonies simply because they paid space Karen for a blue tick.   My "for you" feed is now also mainly full of garbage.

Re Telsa - as with most things he touches, he did not start that company, invested into it and appointed himself the face of it.  They were no doubt ground-breaking EVs but all the major manufacturers have caught up and in lots of cases overtaken them now in terms of innovation.  Probably best not to mention how that company treats some of their staff either.

 

25/9/2023 8:58 pm  #8


Re: Twitter

I don’t disagree with you on the verification issue. It may well be that he has to charge a subscription to eliminate the bots. Whether the majority of people will pay it or not, I don’t know.

As I said, for some time, I disliked Musk intensely. That said, when you are investing, you have to be objective and not allow your prejudices trump your decision making. Any “disrupter” be it, Musk, Jobs, Brin, Theil or Murdoch are usually pretty obnoxious, disagreeable people. Most of us need some form of recognition or praise. These guys don’t. They single-mindedly pursue their vision despite everyone telling them, they are wrong. I recall in 1998, I couldn’t fathom why Google had a market cap of 2x Shell. Google had a annual profit of $100m, whereas, Shell made
$8.7bn a quarter. Tesla is a true technology company. They actually design their chips, rather than outsource them in the way legacy motor manufacturers do. They not only design their own components, but, design (and patent) the machines to make these components.

As regards to Musk usurping someone else’s idea, I would point out that the Tesla founders needed money. In the first VC round of funding they could only raise $7.5 m. Of that $6.5 was Musk’s. Without Musk, the founding members of Tesla, hadn’t a hope in hell of raising even VC money let alone Private Equity. When you turn up at Calpers or Ontario Teachers (pension funds), having taken $100m from a sale of PayPal and have Larry Page and Sergy Brin in tow, they listen to you.

You can make the same argument about Zuckerberg and the Winkelvii twins or even Ray Kroc and the McDonald brothers. Kroc’s genius was to make McDonald’s a property company (not a burger company.

It’s fine to hate Musk, but, one question: Would you short Tesla?

 

16/10/2023 1:07 pm  #9


Re: Twitter

I completely agree with you that he is a complete c*nt.   Would I short Telsa?  I have no idea about stocks and shares but I know I would never buy a Tesla.

 

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