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03/11/2022 4:18 pm  #76


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

Shedtastic wrote:

AlwaysUnited wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


I'd go further - falsely claiming injury to get fellow professional sent off.  Where that player is incorrectly sent off game changed to 3-0 win to suffering side.  Although, bizarrely that would mean Watt would need to stop his histrionics too...

 

Its almost impossible to tell if someone is feigning injury. Certainly in the case of Goss/Watt, Goss was struck by Watt's studs - the severity is up for debate. In my mind it would be completely unfair to penalise Goss though.

Yet again, PISH!
Watt hardly touched the guy, skimmed his leg at the worst case scenario and while play raged on and when it was stopped and VAR consulted the guy was still rolling about the ground, I noticed he made a remarkable recovery when the red card was shown, he was cheating, plain and simple.

He clearly lightly caught him on the shinguard too.

 

03/11/2022 5:45 pm  #77


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

Finn Seemann wrote:

AlwaysUnited wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


I'd go further - falsely claiming injury to get fellow professional sent off.  Where that player is incorrectly sent off game changed to 3-0 win to suffering side.  Although, bizarrely that would mean Watt would need to stop his histrionics too...

 

Its almost impossible to tell if someone is feigning injury. Certainly in the case of Goss/Watt, Goss was struck by Watt's studs - the severity is up for debate. In my mind it would be completely unfair to penalise Goss though.

I know it is probably obvious from the shite you come away with, but you've never played the game have you?

 
Why don't we just have lively debates, rather than making absolutely everything personal/borderline bullying on here? If you disagree with me, fine, but why can't we just stick to the issue at hand?

In all the time we have exchanged views on this board you and others have insulted and belittled me on multiple occasions.

I have never once been been rude to you.

 

03/11/2022 7:06 pm  #78


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

AlwaysUnited wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

AlwaysUnited wrote:

 

Its almost impossible to tell if someone is feigning injury. Certainly in the case of Goss/Watt, Goss was struck by Watt's studs - the severity is up for debate. In my mind it would be completely unfair to penalise Goss though.

I know it is probably obvious from the shite you come away with, but you've never played the game have you?

 
Why don't we just have lively debates, rather than making absolutely everything personal/borderline bullying on here? If you disagree with me, fine, but why can't we just stick to the issue at hand?

In all the time we have exchanged views on this board you and others have insulted and belittled me on multiple occasions.

I have never once been been rude to you.

Au contraire, in a discussion I am entitled to suggest that your opinion is shite and that that might be because you don't know what you are talking about.  There is nothing in what I said, in the post above, that is rude.  I'll admit that I have been rude in the past and for that I do apologise but I do find your Asghar tinted spectacles somewhat offensive.  I stick by my view that if you think it is difficult to tell if someone is feigning injury you haven't played a lot of football.  It happens every week on the telly, player goes down like a ton of bricks or rolling around like someone has shot him.  Cue physio comes on player 'hobbles' off but immediately he crosses the line is immediately fit again.  That player was feigning injuty in 95+% of the cases.  Unless of course you believe that the magic sponge is indeed magic?

Last edited by Finn Seemann (03/11/2022 7:12 pm)

 

03/11/2022 7:38 pm  #79


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

Shedtastic wrote:

AlwaysUnited wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:


I'd go further - falsely claiming injury to get fellow professional sent off.  Where that player is incorrectly sent off game changed to 3-0 win to suffering side.  Although, bizarrely that would mean Watt would need to stop his histrionics too...

 

Its almost impossible to tell if someone is feigning injury. Certainly in the case of Goss/Watt, Goss was struck by Watt's studs - the severity is up for debate. In my mind it would be completely unfair to penalise Goss though.

Yet again, PISH!
Watt hardly touched the guy, skimmed his leg at the worst case scenario and while play raged on and when it was stopped and VAR consulted the guy was still rolling about the ground, I noticed he made a remarkable recovery when the red card was shown, he was cheating, plain and simple.

 

A little harsh maybe.

You can see where he was kicked (shin) and where he held (knee).

It is cheating. But every team, including us, cheats. Tony watt loves a dive. Was it sibbald that went down against Aberdeen with v little contact. Its shite but part of the modern game.

As an aside, why is obstruction allowed in the penalty area and not in the rest of the pitch 🤔


If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
 

03/11/2022 9:53 pm  #80


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

Like cricket where benefit of the doubt goes to batsman, in this instance benefit of the doubt should have gone to Watt.    To have it otherwise was mentil.   Beaton plays on, gets called back a minute later has to make the call pitchside, where presumably he didn't see all the camera angles and he was influenced by the fact that ivory tower twat had referred it back to him and he lacked the bottle to stand by his original play on decision.  Clearly there was doubt - no send off.    Concrete there has been doubt in the mind of el supremo twats in SFA.

On feigning injury, here in New Zealand and world Cup coming ahm forever hearing "Don't watch football - always rolling around injured"  - I'll always say (and I mean this with the utmost racism because they ruin our game) .... anyway I'll always say - nah it's just the filthy dagoes do that, we don't do that in Scotland.   Unless we use VAR to the benefit of the game and where a player is clearly feigning injury - offski, no two ways about it, simple. If not we become just like them.

Last edited by Shakey Isles Arab (03/11/2022 9:55 pm)

 

03/11/2022 10:34 pm  #81


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

I'm still confused.
From watching that VAR programme, the guy in charge of VAR said that they press the red button if the ref has made a clear and obvious error, in this case that Watt's challenge was worthy of a red card

However that said, they intervened to unravel the enigma to decide which of the 2 options to go with.
Either the ref's on field decision which was no foul, or the reason VAR  got involved which was to find an angle to show if it was a red.
The fact there has been so much debate says it wasn't clear or obvious, and Utd appealed and won, so the ref's on field decision should have stood.
How did they then come up with option yellow which wasn't an option in the first place?
As far as I understand it, VAR doesnt press the bloody button to see if a tackle that has been missed by the ref, is worth a yellow.

Last edited by Danzaa (03/11/2022 10:38 pm)

 

03/11/2022 11:01 pm  #82


Re: Utd vs Motherwell - Saturday 29th October

Well Eh made a bit of a chunt oe it myself.

The incident happened right in front oe meh line of sight, and Eh thought that Watt had pulled oot and hudna touched the boy, but some of the footage shows Eh was wrang on the 2nd point, and Watts baet did come inta contact we the guy's leg.

However it seems that naebody can actually tell how hard it was, or how sare it was for the boyo that went doon.

But Eh think the boy was exaggerating. However Ehv nae phuckin idea what the rules to faking injury are in relation to VAR.

Last edited by Billy_Hainey (03/11/2022 11:02 pm)

 

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