Tekel Towers » The Rangers Vs Utd

Tek · 18/12/2021 4:55 pm

Very good 1st half from the Young Terrors.

Hope we can keep this up.

Tek · 18/12/2021 5:53 pm

A performance that our young players should be proud of.

That we are bitterly disappointed in the end to leave there with a 1-0 loss speaks volumes.

Gutted that Craig Moore got stretchered off. Looks like we have a real prospect on our hands there.

Want to see a lot more of Watson, Meekison, Mochrie and Moore going forward.

Snacks94 · 18/12/2021 6:33 pm

Thought the young guys all did really well

Meekison probably the most promising

Watson did a good job too, lot of good defensive work. Just wish his header had dropped in.

Shakey Isles Arab · 18/12/2021 9:58 pm

Great performance by the young laddies. Hold your heads high.

Such a pity and a bad reflection on Scottish football that we rightly feel we have to protect them, having said that they stood up physically as well as technically.

Be arrogant lads.

Glass & Watson concrete in the side every week for me.

Hope Moore's OK.

Had Watson's header looped in it would have well been on the list of all time best headers.
The fact of header hitting bar and McGregor booked for time wasting tells it all.
No tae mention Edwards and Mulgrew's presence and Carson's fine performance.

Last edited by Shakey Isles Arab (18/12/2021 10:18 pm)

Billy_Hainey · 18/12/2021 10:39 pm

Typical of these chunts to play an average performance against us, no be able to score fae open play, and get a Penalty to take the points. TBF, dinna ken what McMann was thinking oe. His erms just dangling aboot.

The team on the park played brah the day. Go so far as to say it was as good a performance beh the depleted squad and they young lads the day, as any beh the 1st team at it's best. These lads have showed some guts the day, and oor 1st team should take note. In fact, gee these lads a chance. Hope young Moore's Ok.

Was expecting the Shitemare afore Christmas, but instead it was just a bad dream. Unfortunately it was true.

It's looking like mid-table for us.

MOTM for me Glass.

Billy_Hainey · 18/12/2021 11:31 pm

Would you expect anything else in the biggest shitehole in Scotland.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8172746/dundee-united-terror-bus-attacked-rangers-ibrox/

Beharder · 19/12/2021 12:02 am

Billy_Hainey wrote:
Typical of these chunts to play an average performance against us, no be able to score fae open play, and get a Penalty to take the points. TBF, dinna ken what McMann was thinking oe. His erms just dangling aboot.

The team on the park played brah the day. Go so far as to say it was as good a performance beh the depleted squad and they young lads the day, as any beh the 1st team at it's best. These lads have showed some guts the day, and oor 1st team should take note. In fact, gee these lads a chance. Hope young Moore's Ok.

Was expecting the Shitemare afore Christmas, but instead it was just a bad dream. Unfortunately it was true.

It's looking like mid-table for us.

MOTM for me Glass.

I would snap your hand off for a mid table finish.
IMO there are about 6 or 7 teams capable of going down this year, we are one of them.

Billy_Hainey · 19/12/2021 10:04 am

Beharder wrote:
I would snap your hand off for a mid table finish.
IMO there are about 6 or 7 teams capable of going down this year, we are one of them.

Ken mate. Jist mibbee hoping for a wee bit too much.

Beharder · 19/12/2021 10:14 am

Billy_Hainey wrote:
Beharder wrote:
I would snap your hand off for a mid table finish.
IMO there are about 6 or 7 teams capable of going down this year, we are one of them.
Ken mate. Jist mibbee hoping for a wee bit too much.

im joining you in the hope Bill, but teams that dont score are in big trouble.
Hopefully Mcnulty will come back and get a few, does Biamou actually exist, im at the point where im getting suspicious 🤔
A fortnight away from the window opening we need a striker or this season could get very uncomfortable indeed.

19/12/2021 10:15 am

Beharder wrote:
Billy_Hainey wrote:
Typical of these chunts to play an average performance against us, no be able to score fae open play, and get a Penalty to take the points. TBF, dinna ken what McMann was thinking oe. His erms just dangling aboot.

The team on the park played brah the day. Go so far as to say it was as good a performance beh the depleted squad and they young lads the day, as any beh the 1st team at it's best. These lads have showed some guts the day, and oor 1st team should take note. In fact, gee these lads a chance. Hope young Moore's Ok.

Was expecting the Shitemare afore Christmas, but instead it was just a bad dream. Unfortunately it was true.

It's looking like mid-table for us.

MOTM for me Glass.

I would snap your hand off for a mid table finish.
IMO there are about 6 or 7 teams capable of going down this year, we are one of them.

I don't disagree Beharder.

Courts has a pleasant problem for the Hibs/St Mirren/Fun run-in to the break - who to pick.
Especially for Hibs on Boxing Day - I'm wondering who from the list of absentees will be available come next Sunday.
Btw Hibs have the small matter of a Cup final & a midweek league game (home to Aberdeen on Wednesday) before coming to Tannadice and all this without a manager.
Craig Moore (I confess I've never heard of him & there is sweet f all about him on the Fishal - Boys' Clubs have better websites, might be injured (what is the injury?) but Glass has maybe cemented a starting spot & maybe Meekison too?
So Courts & Co will need the length of next week to sort out a starting XI.

Where will we end up in the league? I'll go for 7th or 8th, there's gonna be a hell of a scrapping going on in the best prem for a few years.
You do miss the Accies!

Snacks94 · 19/12/2021 10:48 am

To be honest I’ll accept a bottom 6 finish if we see these young guys racking up 10-15 appearances and showing the confidence and ability they showed in spades yesterday. Shame we don’t seem to have a striker coming through, another Russell or Goodie would be ideal.

Hope young Moore’s injury isn’t serious - very impressive debut from a guy who’s just turned 16!!

Beharder · 19/12/2021 11:01 am

This season is starting to remind me of the first season of the 10 team league in the 1970s
We had a lot of good young players coming through but were struggling to win games.
Might be time to see if we could pick up an experienced old stager like Henry Hall as we did all those years ago.

SlatefordArab · 19/12/2021 1:45 pm

Moore, Mochrie, Watson, Meekison, Glass- none of them scared to take the ball regardless of where they are on the pitch and how closely they are being marked. Want to see these guys in the team more between now and the end of the season.

BMT · 19/12/2021 2:56 pm

Great to see these young guys go out and actually play football against arguably the best team in the country.

dufc2019 · 20/12/2021 7:34 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
I was honestly over the moon with that performance on Saturday. Those young lads showed composure and dig that we don't see often enough in a team of "first team players".

I actually think it's easier for those young lads to go to somewhere like Ibrox - partly because there were few expectations of a result, and partly because the The Rangers would play some footballrather than just kick our teenagers off the park. They might find it harder to shine on a cold Tuesday night at Livingston, but regardless, I was proud of those lads.

What stood out for me most was their ability to retain their defensive shape and stick to the defensive plan. Watching them all swing across, constantly shoulder-checking to be aware of open channels behind them, as the The Rangers switched the ball across their back 4, and constantly making wee positional adjustments to take away the middle of the park, was brilliant. That comes from coaching, and what they did there was go out and turn on autopilot, doing what they've been doing at training again and again.

My MotM was Darren Watson. Probably played out of position, up against Kent. Didn't dive in and kept Kent pretty quiet all afternoon - and also popped up in our attacking third a few times to get involved in some nice one-touch moves involving the other youngsters that got the ball into scoring positions a few times, even if there wasn't a striker who had read the play and got themselves into the same hole.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else (though I'm sure it has been) but our entire midfield missing, and Chalmers still doesn't get a starting place or come on as a sub (though that might have been partly due to the injury to Moore meaning Smith had to come on as our third sub). Really makes me think Courts doesn't trust him to show the sort of positional discipline and work ethic that those other youngsters showed. I hope Chalmers can turn this around as the boy clearly has a lot of natural talent, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

Finally, Asghar has taken a lot of stick over some recent events, and probably deservedly so. But separating communication balls-ups from what's happening with the youth development plan, I think he has to get some credit for putting the people and resources in place that mean we can throw young laddies on at Ibrox and they can perform like that.

I think thats spot on, I like Chalmers but he is pretty wasteful with the ball at times, yesterday was all about keeping it when we did have it

Shakey Isles Arab · 20/12/2021 7:42 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
I was honestly over the moon with that performance on Saturday. Those young lads showed composure and dig that we don't see often enough in a team of "first team players".

I actually think it's easier for those young lads to go to somewhere like Ibrox - partly because there were few expectations of a result, and partly because the The Rangers would play some footballrather than just kick our teenagers off the park. They might find it harder to shine on a cold Tuesday night at Livingston, but regardless, I was proud of those lads.

What stood out for me most was their ability to retain their defensive shape and stick to the defensive plan. Watching them all swing across, constantly shoulder-checking to be aware of open channels behind them, as the The Rangers switched the ball across their back 4, and constantly making wee positional adjustments to take away the middle of the park, was brilliant. That comes from coaching, and what they did there was go out and turn on autopilot, doing what they've been doing at training again and again.

My MotM was Darren Watson. Probably played out of position, up against Kent. Didn't dive in and kept Kent pretty quiet all afternoon - and also popped up in our attacking third a few times to get involved in some nice one-touch moves involving the other youngsters that got the ball into scoring positions a few times, even if there wasn't a striker who had read the play and got themselves into the same hole.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else (though I'm sure it has been) but our entire midfield missing, and Chalmers still doesn't get a starting place or come on as a sub (though that might have been partly due to the injury to Moore meaning Smith had to come on as our third sub). Really makes me think Courts doesn't trust him to show the sort of positional discipline and work ethic that those other youngsters showed. I hope Chalmers can turn this around as the boy clearly has a lot of natural talent, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

Finally, Asghar has taken a lot of stick over some recent events, and probably deservedly so. But separating communication balls-ups from what's happening with the youth development plan, I think he has to get some credit for putting the people and resources in place that mean we can throw young laddies on at Ibrox and they can perform like that.

Wholeheartedly agree with all of that.
Thought Watson was good too as for me he was up against sharpest Hun.
The coaching, and ability to stick to game plan reflected well on understanding fostered by years together in our academy.

dufc2019 · 20/12/2021 7:46 pm

The 3 M's in midfield were aged 16.18 and 19 (against the champions at Grayscull) the more I think about it its staggering how well they did.

Beharder · 20/12/2021 9:54 pm

I think its becoming clear even to the biggest doubters that TC has United well coached and organised.
Hopefully he gets backed in January in the striking department.

Finn Seemann · 20/12/2021 9:57 pm

I would hope that might mean that Courts might think about starting one or two of the youngsters more often. That is the only way that we will develop them and it is not as if the likes of Harkes or Butcher have been so stellar that we can't afford to do that. That said, I hope that it also doesn't convince Mr Asghar that we have ready made replacements when we eventually lose Fuchs and Levitt. They have a way to go before that is the case. Great to see the talent is actually there, but it does need to be managed (and Chalmers is an example of that - he's clearly not where he needs to be at the moment, but we have to give him time and if a loan is the right move then that should be considered).

Finn Seemann · 20/12/2021 10:02 pm

Beharder wrote:
I think its becoming clear even to the biggest doubters that TC has United well coached and organised.
Hopefully he gets backed in January in the striking department.

Agreed. Even if McNulty and Biamou are expected to be fit he does need another option. I like Nicky Clark, but he is not the striker we need right now and I am not convinced that McNulty and/or Biamou are either. Of the two McNulty should be more likely to have an impact because of his pace. Biamou looks a bit slower and I think speed is the key for the way we play. Any aspiring Jamie Vardy's out there?

dufc2019 · 22/12/2021 10:19 am

Finn Seemann wrote:
I would hope that might mean that Courts might think about starting one or two of the youngsters more often. That is the only way that we will develop them and it is not as if the likes of Harkes or Butcher have been so stellar that we can't afford to do that. That said, I hope that it also doesn't convince Mr Asghar that we have ready made replacements when we eventually lose Fuchs and Levitt. They have a way to go before that is the case. Great to see the talent is actually there, but it does need to be managed (and Chalmers is an example of that - he's clearly not where he needs to be at the moment, but we have to give him time and if a loan is the right move then that should be considered).

I think Chalmers will go out on loan in jan, hopefully will be the making of him, he went to Arbroath and never got a game

Beharder · 22/12/2021 11:11 am

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dufc2019 wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
I would hope that might mean that Courts might think about starting one or two of the youngsters more often. That is the only way that we will develop them and it is not as if the likes of Harkes or Butcher have been so stellar that we can't afford to do that. That said, I hope that it also doesn't convince Mr Asghar that we have ready made replacements when we eventually lose Fuchs and Levitt. They have a way to go before that is the case. Great to see the talent is actually there, but it does need to be managed (and Chalmers is an example of that - he's clearly not where he needs to be at the moment, but we have to give him time and if a loan is the right move then that should be considered).
I think Chalmers will go out on loan in jan, hopefully will be the making of him, he went to Arbroath and never got a game

I think the main issue with Chalmers is physically he looks exactly the same as he did when he made his debut about 4yrs ago.
You can have all the skill in the world but if you cant stand up to the standard Scottish defenders "honest attempt' to get the ball tackle you are going nowhere.

dufc2019 · 22/12/2021 11:24 am

Beharder wrote:
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dufc2019 wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
I would hope that might mean that Courts might think about starting one or two of the youngsters more often. That is the only way that we will develop them and it is not as if the likes of Harkes or Butcher have been so stellar that we can't afford to do that. That said, I hope that it also doesn't convince Mr Asghar that we have ready made replacements when we eventually lose Fuchs and Levitt. They have a way to go before that is the case. Great to see the talent is actually there, but it does need to be managed (and Chalmers is an example of that - he's clearly not where he needs to be at the moment, but we have to give him time and if a loan is the right move then that should be considered).
I think Chalmers will go out on loan in jan, hopefully will be the making of him, he went to Arbroath and never got a game

I think the main issue with Chalmers is physically he looks exactly the same as he did when he made his debut about 4yrs ago.
You can have all the skill in the world but if you cant stand up to the standard Scottish defenders "honest attempt' to get the ball tackle you are going nowhere.

IMO its not that, his main problem is he dosnt work hard enough without the ball to track runners etc and he's more interested in tricks and flicks so makes bad decisions

22/12/2021 11:51 am

Where is all this Logan Chalmers naughty step speculation coming from?
That's all it is, pure conjecture, and if you repeat mistruths often enough people can start to believe them.
Sentence him back to a non-playing loan period at Gayfield?!

Beharder · 22/12/2021 2:11 pm

smedDUm wrote:
Where is all this Logan Chalmers naughty step speculation coming from?
That's all it is, pure conjecture, and if you repeat mistruths often enough people can start to believe them.
Sentence him back to a non-playing loan period at Gayfield?!

I would suggest Smeds that it comes from the fact that Utd played 6 teenagers in their starting line up against Sevco and a 21yr old with a fair bit of 1st team experience was an unused substitute.
Clear evidence that TC either dosent rate Chalmers or something else is a miss.