Tekel Towers » New manager (assuming Mickey is away)

Beharder · 07/6/2021 5:49 pm

He talks a lot of sense in his interview.
" I don't know of any teams that have been successful without a core of experienced players"
He appears to be an intelligent and articulate coach, unlike many of the clowns we've had in the dugout over the last 10 years.

Recruitment though is still the key.

Lancashire-Arab · 07/6/2021 6:45 pm

Beharder wrote:
He talks a lot of sense in his interview.
" I don't know of any teams that have been successful without a core of experienced players"
He appears to be an intelligent and articulate coach, unlike many of the clowns we've had in the dugout over the last 10 years.

Recruitment though is still the key.

Agree our recruitment is now key, For this to work TC needs to have a huge say in any player recruitment taking place.

Good luck to him and Liam Fox!

Let's get moving on building a squad for next season - not long now until Berwick away!

Lilley01 · 07/6/2021 7:37 pm

The sound bites, pre arranged questions and answers aimed at appeasing fans on key issues was a total joke. Quite annoyed at the mention of a strenuous process in the very first answer. Fuck off and don’t offend us, we’re not idiots.

That said, if anything impressed me from his cameo at livi last year, it was his clarity, calmness and confidence in his pre and post interviews. Already an advantage to a certain Cathro.

Tangy · 07/6/2021 8:14 pm

Extremely wary and the first sign of a spell of poor form will see all manner of sh!te getting flung his way.

For me, too confident and trying to kiss the fans @rse with talk of cauldrons and sucking balls into the net.

See we've used the money saved from mickeys wages to hire a professional charm offensive too. Poor ally and Sean binned off for David tanner and a host of twitter posts orchestrated from within the club.

Tony - you can't polish a jobbie. Fans are bright enough and articulate enough to see through it

And very randomly- his accent is annoying.

Last edited by Tangy (07/6/2021 8:18 pm)

Macbonzo · 07/6/2021 8:30 pm

LarsErikKjell wrote:
I still struggle with people going on about Asghar ruining the club or however they see it. Give me one bit of proof that this is the case? Because sorry but there isn't one, whether you are his biggest fan or not, the club is a better place since he became involved. People moaning about the number of coaches and academy staff and analysts etc don't understand the reality of modern day football (in my opinion).

Would you accept that he has put the club in a vulnerable position, financially, by the number of appointees? For the size of club, we are, can we afford an In house legal, a General Manager and a Sporting Director?

In terms of his son, Derek Bond and McCulloch, would you accept there is a suspicion of nepotism and cronyism.

We are not Man City we are a struggling SPL club.

LarsErikKjell · 07/6/2021 9:31 pm

Macbonzo wrote:
LarsErikKjell wrote:
I still struggle with people going on about Asghar ruining the club or however they see it. Give me one bit of proof that this is the case? Because sorry but there isn't one, whether you are his biggest fan or not, the club is a better place since he became involved. People moaning about the number of coaches and academy staff and analysts etc don't understand the reality of modern day football (in my opinion).

Would you accept that he has put the club in a vulnerable position, financially, by the number of appointees? For the size of club, we are, can we afford an In house legal, a General Manager and a Sporting Director?

In terms of his son, Derek Bond and McCulloch, would you accept there is a suspicion of nepotism and cronyism.

We are not Man City we are a struggling SPL club.

I know zero about how much money we are spending on the staff compared to other clubs.

Are Bond and the lawyers his mates? In terms of his son the only detail I've heard on that is Goldie saying TA was against the appoitment initially and had to be convinced. TA haters will just call that bullshit. But they are just assuming.

Rick Dagless · 07/6/2021 9:36 pm

Lancashire-Arab wrote:
Beharder wrote:
He talks a lot of sense in his interview.
" I don't know of any teams that have been successful without a core of experienced players"
He appears to be an intelligent and articulate coach, unlike many of the clowns we've had in the dugout over the last 10 years.

Recruitment though is still the key.
Agree our recruitment is now key, For this to work TC needs to have a huge say in any player recruitment taking place.

He won't, he is a Head Coach not a manager. TA will be running the show in that department. Tam will work with what he's given.

Like most I have no issue with him. He's been given a huge opportunity and would be daft not to take it. What I do have an issue with is how the club have handled it all. It's been a joke from the start. Courts was given the job over a week ago, no one else was interviewed for that position. The club have tried to spin a story about exceptional candidates being interviewed but its all just nonsense. Asghars young lad was going to be the number 2 but they scrambled for an alternative when they saw the backlash.

Noticed Andy Goldie tweeting saying he's more than earned the job. Genuinely curious as to how that's the case.

I watched his interview though and I thought it was heavily scripted, especially at the start, lots of empty answers full of corporate speak and buzz words, also comparisons made to Gerrard, Rogers and Jim McLean which was blatant spin. The questions about fan reaction to his appointment was clearly scripted. Got better as it went on but I'm still no further clued up as to his footballing ideology despite him being asked it.
I laughed at the big reveal that he hand picked his number 2. Did ye aye?
Was interesting that shankland was mentioned, since i noticed he tweeted about Frail leaving but nothing about Courts.

Also why the fuck did the club have David "staunch" Tanner doing that interview? can't believe we paid that prick. He was going full Alan Partidge through most of it.

Tek · 07/6/2021 10:16 pm

Rick Dagless wrote:
Lancashire-Arab wrote:
Beharder wrote:
He talks a lot of sense in his interview.
" I don't know of any teams that have been successful without a core of experienced players"
He appears to be an intelligent and articulate coach, unlike many of the clowns we've had in the dugout over the last 10 years.

Recruitment though is still the key.
Agree our recruitment is now key, For this to work TC needs to have a huge say in any player recruitment taking place.

He won't, he is a Head Coach not a manager. TA will be running the show in that department. Tam will work with what he's given.

Like most I have no issue with him. He's been given a huge opportunity and would be daft not to take it. What I do have an issue with is how the club have handled it all. It's been a joke from the start. Courts was given the job over a week ago, no one else was interviewed for that position. The club have tried to spin a story about exceptional candidates being interviewed but its all just nonsense. Asghars young lad was going to be the number 2 but they scrambled for an alternative when they saw the backlash.

Noticed Andy Goldie tweeting saying he's more than earned the job. Genuinely curious as to how that's the case.

I watched his interview though and I thought it was heavily scripted, especially at the start, lots of empty answers full of corporate speak and buzz words, also comparisons made to Gerrard, Rogers and Jim McLean which was blatant spin. The questions about fan reaction to his appointment was clearly scripted. Got better as it went on but I'm still no further clued up as to his footballing ideology despite him being asked it.
I laughed at the big reveal that he hand picked his number 2. Did ye aye?
Was interesting that shankland was mentioned, since i noticed he tweeted about Frail leaving but nothing about Courts.

Also why the fuck did the club have David "staunch" Tanner doing that interview? can't believe we paid that prick. He was going full Alan Partidge through most of it.

Great post.👏

07/6/2021 11:08 pm

Just listening to the interview and yes, there is stage management but I'll tell you this, he talks better than any of the last six incumbents and he does have a brain in his head. Good luck Tam & Liam.

Tek · 08/6/2021 1:36 am

smedDUm wrote:
Just listening to the interview and yes, there is stage management but I'll tell you this, he talks better than any of the last six incumbents and he does have a brain in his head. Good luck Tam & Liam.

I think he is a bright boy also.

I have grave concerns about this appointment, the structure of the club and it's future.

But i truly wish Thomas Courts all the very best in his role.

I hope he smashes it.

08/6/2021 7:37 am

Rick Dagless wrote:
I'm still no further clued up as to his footballing ideology despite him being asked it.

To be fair, I liked his answer to that. He said he'd find a system that would fit the players we have and that he's not going to get hung up on personal philosophy. Seems like a sensible and pragmatic approach to me. I'd rather that than the usual BS about getting the ball down and playing from the back. That only works sometimes at our level and I'd like to see us mix it up a bit.

AlonsMosely · 08/6/2021 7:52 am

Congratulations Tam on the new Job, i like every other Arab wish you nothing but huge success in your new role.

Tony, fingers crossed for you that you have got this right. Everyone is watching what you do from now on to prove that you have the clubs and not your own interests at heart....

Finn Seemann · 08/6/2021 12:12 pm

Rick Dagless wrote:
Lancashire-Arab wrote:
Beharder wrote:
He talks a lot of sense in his interview.
" I don't know of any teams that have been successful without a core of experienced players"
He appears to be an intelligent and articulate coach, unlike many of the clowns we've had in the dugout over the last 10 years.

Recruitment though is still the key.
Agree our recruitment is now key, For this to work TC needs to have a huge say in any player recruitment taking place.

He won't, he is a Head Coach not a manager. TA will be running the show in that department. Tam will work with what he's given.

Like most I have no issue with him. He's been given a huge opportunity and would be daft not to take it. What I do have an issue with is how the club have handled it all. It's been a joke from the start. Courts was given the job over a week ago, no one else was interviewed for that position. The club have tried to spin a story about exceptional candidates being interviewed but its all just nonsense. Asghars young lad was going to be the number 2 but they scrambled for an alternative when they saw the backlash.

Noticed Andy Goldie tweeting saying he's more than earned the job. Genuinely curious as to how that's the case.

I watched his interview though and I thought it was heavily scripted, especially at the start, lots of empty answers full of corporate speak and buzz words, also comparisons made to Gerrard, Rogers and Jim McLean which was blatant spin. The questions about fan reaction to his appointment was clearly scripted. Got better as it went on but I'm still no further clued up as to his footballing ideology despite him being asked it.
I laughed at the big reveal that he hand picked his number 2. Did ye aye?
Was interesting that shankland was mentioned, since i noticed he tweeted about Frail leaving but nothing about Courts.

Also why the fuck did the club have David "staunch" Tanner doing that interview? can't believe we paid that prick. He was going full Alan Partidge through most of it.

You are right. I know David - he was full on Partridge - every word was said with 'nobody is falling for this sh1te, but it pays the bills..."

08/6/2021 1:21 pm

Trouble is had we got Sir Sean to do the interview (which he would have done excellently) there would have been more accusations of cronyism.

Finn Seemann · 08/6/2021 1:45 pm

smedDUm wrote:
Trouble is had we got Sir Sean to do the interview (which he would have done excellently) there would have been more accusations of cronyism.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that we didn't pay Tanner so its not really about cronyism. Tanner got his dollar and will have done what he was told. Note the theme with Tony...

08/6/2021 2:18 pm

This could end up with some element of fascination because TAM CAN NOT AFFORD TO FAIL if you get my drift. The consequences of failure are grave so HE SIMPLY HAS TO SUCCEED.
And you know what? I think he will. And am I going to enjoy having a go at some of you lads...?!

Tangy · 08/6/2021 2:33 pm

smedDUm wrote:
This could end up with some element of fascination because TAM CAN NOT AFFORD TO FAIL if you get my drift. The consequences of failure are grave so HE SIMPLY HAS TO SUCCEED.
And you know what? I think he will. And am I going to enjoy having a go at some of you lads...?!

And if he fails can we have a go at you?

Sure we are all allowed to have differing opinions without having a go at each other.

08/6/2021 4:17 pm

Tangy wrote:
smedDUm wrote:
This could end up with some element of fascination because TAM CAN NOT AFFORD TO FAIL if you get my drift. The consequences of failure are grave so HE SIMPLY HAS TO SUCCEED.
And you know what? I think he will. And am I going to enjoy having a go at some of you lads...?!

And if he fails can we have a go at you?

Sure we are all allowed to have differing opinions without having a go at each other.

Would be a friendly 'go', nothing to worry about.
Listen, I don't have a clue how it's going to work out, nobody does, not Tam himself, not Tony, not nobody. But whilst it is so intriguing I like to believe something right is going to come out of it, it's better to be.hopeful & positive is it not?

Tangy · 08/6/2021 7:08 pm

I usually quite pragmatic but I don't think he has done anything to warrant the job. Brechin have just appointed Andy kirk as manager - a guy who's coaching experience is pretty similar to courts. They are Highland league.

I'm happy with each to their own but if it works out (like we all want - let's not get that confused) then you are coming to be coming on here like a keyboard rambo telling us all 'I told you so?

BMT · 09/6/2021 6:16 am

I hope Tam is given a chance and is not set up to fail as I think it all depends on who we sign this window as I can't see how we could expect anything different from last season if we keep the same squad.

09/6/2021 6:35 am

Tangy wrote:
I usually quite pragmatic but I don't think he has done anything to warrant the job. Brechin have just appointed Andy kirk as manager - a guy who's coaching experience is pretty similar to courts. They are Highland league.

I'm happy with each to their own but if it works out (like we all want - let's not get that confused) then you are coming to be coming on here like a keyboard rambo telling us all 'I told you so?

There will be plenty on here saying that if it's a disaster.

09/6/2021 8:13 am

I think the success bar is going to be set rather high for him from day one.
I mean what if we stumble in even ONE of the 4 league cup games that kick off the season.
If we don't see off Kelty, Elgin, Lichties & East Fife comfortably the pitchforks will be raised even before the very first league fixture.
Cos even Snaba Laszlo would have topped that group.
Will it prove to be a very fortuitous group for Tam & Liam or will it not?

ArabChris · 09/6/2021 8:46 am

Let's hope to avoid penalties in the group game with Arbroath then.

Away shootout - United win under

Home shootout- Arbroath win.

On a more serious note Uniited should be comfortably winning the group to breed confidence going into the league and am very confident this will be the case.

If I was to pick a potential banana skin it is Kelty away.

Revenge on East Fife woyld be nice as well.

If the group ends up in an extremely humiliating defeat the pressure then of dear for Tam and Liam as I can see some fans having pitchforks at the ready for the new league season.

Lilley01 · 09/6/2021 10:14 am

I'm angered at the process more than the decision. What's said above is true though, the bar is going to be exceptionally high and will not be helpful for players or managers. Nearly every managerial appointment that has worked out well has taken time to embed in. Davidson often sited but looking further afield, Klopp, Pep, Gerrard all took time.

It will be a real shame if we get back into stadiums after this long and there's a built-up outpouring of negativity whenever something doesn't go well. We've got an engrained way of playing. Will take time to unpick and i don't have high expectations for us starting next season flying. Need to embrace the new way of playing though and hopefully we see a no-fear approach from some of the young lads.

LarsErikKjell · 09/6/2021 10:22 pm

Canadian Arab wrote:
Lilley01 wrote:
We've got an engrained way of playing. Will take time to unpick and i don't have high expectations for us starting next season flying. Need to embrace the new way of playing though and hopefully we see a no-fear approach from some of the young lads.
The idea is that from youngsters up, everyone is coached in a similar way to play in a similar fashion. I understand the reason why we would do this but when a new manager comes in and says "right, we're going to play a different way", does the entire coaching approach have to change starting from the bottom? Will Courts coach the first team to play in a similar way to what he was doing with the youth teams as head of tactical? If not, did he not believe in the merits of what he was doing with the youth before? If he will, was the first team under MM not being asked to play in a way that the youngsters could fit in seamlessly when they were needed and know what they were doing?

If the youngster were being asked to play the Mellon way then we are proper fucked