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I don't mean names.
I mean what type of Manager are we looking for?
What style and formation do you hope to see Scotland's 5th biggest club adopt next season?
Last edited by Tek (25/6/2020 5:10 am)
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To be comfortable playing on the front foot. (2 wingers is a must)
To play a formation that can be tweaked mid game, if the need arises.
A leader, obviously.
Not a rookie.
Someone who can handle the press & give them a bit back if they’re getting a bit out of line.
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Someone who can command respect from the players (even if they are a rookie and its their first job in management).
Who fully buys into the clubs philosophy of slowly developing young talent whilst keeping an experienced core of players in the first team.
Changeable with formations, especially in the Premiership, we'll need to utilise 4-5-1, 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1 at different times throughout the season and probably some others.
I want an manager who wants us to play aggressive football whilst also being very disciplined defensively. Keen to build from the back where possible but not scared in tighter matches to get the ball up to the strikers and wingers and really have a go at teams.
Also, I want a manager who doesnt have 'favourites' and isnt scared scared to drop a senior player if their levels drop. No manager since Levein/Houston have been comfortable doing this. Jackie, Mixu, Ray, Csaba and Neilson all had players you just knew were playing week-in-week-out if available. Neilson maybe even the worst culprit for it with Pawlett and Sow in his time at United. Even when they were both miles off it - still in the starting 11. Remember he fucking started Sow over Safranko in the 1st leg of the play-off final. Jesus christ.
Compare that with Levein who, in the League cup final in 2008, dropped two regulars in Dods and Dillon because he thought that youngsters Kenneth and Kovacevic suited the game better - and it came so close to fucking working too. How I wish we could get the old Levein back.
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Similar to what's been said but as a fan, I want to see an energetic team. Watching Liverpool last night pressing every ball within seconds even when 4-0 up and 20 odd points clear was impressive. For me it shows you how critical good coaching and a strong ethos is. When we might not have the biggest squad or the largest wage bill, there is no limit on how fit and disciplined a coach can get a team and the effects this can have.
Ray falling back into a 4-2-3-1 formation in our own half, at home, to Brechin destroyed me (and him imo).
It's such an important job, I hope it's someone strong enough to command internal respect from upstairs and not just the players. Do not want a patsy and hope the inferences to Asghar recently are not true.
Eye for a young, hungry player is probably not required as the model we have removes the need for that in part but I would hope as with the last point, they'd have the knowledge and power to say 'no' to some targets and strongly encourage us on others if it's going to benefit the team.
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Someone who can make us win more than we lose. That’s it.
Nobody will give a shit about style if we do that in the premier league.
If we can do it playing a fast paced 442 while using wingers to beat men and get crosses in the box and an aggressive pressing style when not in possession all the better, but the first bits all that matters.
The impossible.
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I want the club to make an appointment that first and foremost excites the fans in it's ambition.
We are in the unique position after Sunday of being able to surprisingly strengthen the position of First Team Manager and Hearts have allegedly helped facilitate us in this to the tune of 200k (not 100k as was initially rumoured).
We cannot blow this. We are about to enter a season (fans or not) where we will play at Parkhead, Ibrox, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Fir Park for the first time in 5 years on league business. A considerable step-up in class to what we have been used to in other words.
We need a Manager with a bit of an aura about him who will command respect from the players and i'd hope who the fans take to instantly.
2020 has been a brutal year for us all and football is about escapism and a vehicle to entertain the working classes and give them something to cling on to and rally round.
This is the Ogren's first appointment. I really hope they think ambitiously.
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Simple-somebody with experience.
Nae yes men or unknowns.
Gordon Strachan has everything.
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I want someone who would be like Levein was at Ibrox when Mike McCurry blatantly cheated us for the benefit of der Hun.
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I would like to see someone who wants to play good attacking football but also gets results. We need someone who is a good organiser, will set up the defense and ensure that we are hard to beat. Hopefully Shankland stays or Nisbet comes in and we can keep the current attacking threat.
Formation of 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 would do.
Big ask i know but as long as we dont get a diddy id be satisfied. Had enough diddies in recent appointments.
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Tek wrote:
I don't mean names.
I mean what type of Manager are we looking for?
What style and formation do you hope to see Scotland's 5th biggest club adopt next season?
Manager who instills belief in players that we can be top club in Scotland on the park.
Helped out by good wage, big win bonuses and no dross. Above all belief.
When we've got the ball we attack and score .
When we don't we're watertight.
Sound like wishful thinking, well a great man before me had similar ideas albeit pre Bosman.
And Ranieri at Leicester achieved it post Bosman.
Without that desire we'll always be also rans in the league, dreaming about 1983.
England still bang on about 1966, the Fun thought they were top team in the city for 25 years based on 1963. Some still do. (happy) (happy)
So what management style ? - One that believes. No belief - no repeat of the eighties.
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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Manager who instills belief in players that we can be top club in Scotland on the park..
Superb answer.
There is a quote from the great Dave Narey on the walls of Tannadice that says '2nd best is never an option at Dundee United' or words to that effect.
It's time we started to adopt that outlook again as a club.
We might not achieve our aim of course. But if you don't aim to smash that glass ceiling what's the point?
Tek wrote:
I want the club to make an appointment that first and foremost excites the fans in it's ambition.
We are in the unique position after Sunday of being able to surprisingly strengthen the position of First Team Manager and Hearts have allegedly helped facilitate us in this to the tune of 200k (not 100k as was initially rumoured).
We cannot blow this. We are about to enter a season (fans or not) where we will play at Parkhead, Ibrox, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Fir Park for the first time in 5 years on league business. A considerable step-up in class to what we have been used to in other words.
We need a Manager with a bit of an aura about him who will command respect from the players and i'd hope who the fans take to instantly.
2020 has been a brutal year for us all and football is about escapism and a vehicle to entertain the working classes and give them something to cling on to and rally round.
This is the Ogren's first appointment. I really hope they think ambitiously.
I think they will. I get the impression that Asghar is a "think big" type. Remember how shocked everyone was when we signed Shankland? That showed realistic ambition, and I think(hope) they'll show a similar level of ambition with their choice of manager.
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A manager who puts fitness, power & aggression as his core philosophy.
That's all you need to be successful in Scotland.
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A leader, someone capable of instilling unwavering confidence in the players. Their actions need to mirror that of what they want to see on the pitch.
A positive, enthusiasm for the club which takes everyone with him, players, coaches, fans. Make the place feel like it’s unbeatable from negative outside bullshit.
Playing two wingers and getting at teams especially at home.
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Tek wrote:
Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Manager who instills belief in players that we can be top club in Scotland on the park..
Superb answer.
There is a quote from the great Dave Narey on the walls of Tannadice that says '2nd best is never an option at Dundee United' or words to that effect.
It's time we started to adopt that outlook again as a club.
We might not achieve our aim of course. But if you don't aim to smash that glass ceiling what's the point?
When I'm giving presentations to traders, I alway begin with the Liverpool motto:
"First is first, second is nowhere"
My boyhood days are scarred by Hampden finals 1981, 85, 87, 88 and 91.
It took a non Scottish coach to break that.