PatReilly wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

  

In days gone by Tuesday's defeat would have resulted in no more than a lot of 'that was shite' comments around the pubs. Nowadays - OMG!!

When did United suffer such a defeat in 'days gone by', in your lifetime?

smedDUm wrote:

  
And those bemoaning the 'square balls across the back/slow build-up pish' we played exactly the same way on Friday. Did anybody notice?

Aye, the folk who have given their honest opinions on the games this season have noticed it happening in all four games, not just Friday, and last season as well.

The result on Tuesday didn't bother me that much, I think the clubs have allowed what was once a fine competition to be ruined, but the performances give huge cause for concern. Tuesday doesn't seem to have been conducted in any different fashion than many (most) of the matches I watched last season. It wasn't a performance to be viewed in isolation.
 

To answer your question Founder, 3 games that spring to mind are the Scottish Cup final defeats of 1987, 1991 & 2014.
They were 3 finals in which we were favourites & in 2 of them we didn't even turn up.
Tuesday was a League Cup qualifier & by comparison was easy to take.
 

smedDUm wrote:

Poor Tony must be spewing into his Crunchy Nuts this morning. His bold statement elicited what can at best be described as a mixed response. Brave effort Mr Asghar but sometimes ye just cannae win.

In days gone by Tuesday's defeat would have resulted in no more than a lot of 'that was shite' comments around the pubs. Nowadays - OMG!!

Here's a thought & one can dream. If on going 2-0 down the fans had started singing rather than booing might we have had a different outcome? There was little or no support. The players are only human.

And those bemoaning the 'square balls across the back/slow build-up pish' we played exactly the same way on Friday. Did anybody notice?

Spot on mate. Pretty much the same team and formation on Friday and the team played pretty well. The difference? The touch and confidence was there friday wasnt on Tuesday. 
Not all players can turn it on in every game if you have too many having an off day you get a shit performance. If you have better players less chance of it happening more often. 

 

Dufc2016 wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

Poor Tony must be spewing into his Crunchy Nuts this morning. His bold statement elicited what can at best be described as a mixed response. Brave effort Mr Asghar but sometimes ye just cannae win.

In days gone by Tuesday's defeat would have resulted in no more than a lot of 'that was shite' comments around the pubs. Nowadays - OMG!!

Here's a thought & one can dream. If on going 2-0 down the fans had started singing rather than booing might we have had a different outcome? There was little or no support. The players are only human.

And those bemoaning the 'square balls across the back/slow build-up pish' we played exactly the same way on Friday. Did anybody notice?

Spot on mate. Pretty much the same team and formation on Friday and the team played pretty well. The difference? The touch and confidence was there friday wasnt on Tuesday. 
Not all players can turn it on in every game if you have too many having an off day you get a shit performance. If you have better players less chance of it happening more often. 

 

Apart fae game against the 'beath weve been pretty pish. Not counting brechin as they were full of trialists
 

The tempo was much better against Cowdenbeath though, the ball was getting moved much quicker. Plus Cowdenbeath were crap and stood off us. We always look great against teams that do that. When teams press us like East Fife did we struggle.

Last edited by lifesanocean (26/7/2019 11:57 am)

I see some people talking about the atmosphere when we went 0-2 down on Tuesday night.

Realistically, is any club in our league or the league above going to sing and encourage the team when they are being played off the park by East Fife? I doubt it.

The fans aren’t the ones at fault here, it’s incompetence from playing and coaching staff.

LarsErikKjell wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

On one hand I think this is simply intended to deflect attention from Neilson, although maybe the PR team should suggest to Neilson that saying in public he is sticking with his plans after a humiliation is unlikely to alleviate the situation..

 
He was talking about his plans of who to play etc. Nothing to do with tactics.

I know.  There was no need to frame it like was my point. 
 

We dont like it if the club are silent on all matters and then we dont like it if one of the directors engages with us. They cant win really. I know theres a way to go about it but I'd rather people at the club listened to and got involved with online discussion than not.

And 'ridicule' surely too strong a word for what he did? He sent a gif that said 'seriously?' I'm sure he has already had worse thrown at him by fans since joining us.

LarsErikKjell wrote:

We dont like it if the club are silent on all matters and then we dont like it if one of the directors engages with us. They cant win really. I know theres a way to go about it but I'd rather people at the club listened to and got involved with online discussion than not.

And 'ridicule' surely too strong a word for what he did? He sent a gif that said 'seriously?' I'm sure he has already had worse thrown at him by fans since joining us.

I said previously that transparency and communication  from the club is good. 

Sending GIFs ridiculing, mocking (or however you would word it LarsErikKjell) a Utd season ticket holders honest opinion is in no way helpfull or does anything to help promote engagement between the club and the support.

His post on the night didn't overly offend me btw. But i knew then and there it would backfire on him. And it has.




 

Its cowboys is what it looks like.  Reserved judgement to date but thats not a good sign that he's his head on straight at all.

I think its been this way for a while by the way. For whatever reason its read like an "us vs them" scenario between club and fans.  Especially in Thompson area.

Thicker skin required. Sick of reading shite like this honestly.  Not as close to things as yous are but felt like this ever since our then chairman decided to get a lifelong supporter slapped across paper for the wrong reasons.

Needs to change. Not convinced by TA, hope the owner is paying attention.

MockChop wrote:

The club-fans relationship is stronger than it was a couple years ago (I know that’s not saying much) and it will get better, work is being done. The Community Trust etc are making great strides. (look at the Open Day this year for instance)

Asghar has done a couple of daft tweets in the past few weeks, and a very very small part of our fan base couldn’t wait to pull him up on it. IMO this has stemmed from him pulling out of a Fed Q&A the same day as our Dumbarton friendly.

On the pitch is really all that matters to us however, and their are no signs of that being rectified (our approach to games)

This falls on Neilsons shoulders. And sadly, it looks like he has 4/5 games to sort it (1/2 if you talk to some) then we have Lee McCulloch taking the team.

 
That last sentence terrifies me.

Robbie Neilson's job is not in jeopardy.
Forget this 2/3 games/6 games/October/Xmas pish.
The best we are going to be is if not running away with the league at least being ahead from the outset.
And the worst we are going to be is being in a mix of 3/4 teams at the top, similar to last season really.
And that scenario isn't sackable.
A calamitous result or two a la Wafflepish alongside that scenario may be tho.
But I can't really see that happening.
I predict us winning the league, not by miles, but keeping a healthy 6 -8 point advantage over 2nd place.
And everything goes swimmingly & Robbie will be our hero

MockChop wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

Robbie Neilson's job is not in jeopardy.
Forget this 2/3 games/6 games/October/Xmas pish.
The best we are going to be is if not running away with the league at least being ahead from the outset.
And the worst we are going to be is being in a mix of 3/4 teams at the top, similar to last season really.
And that scenario isn't sackable.
A calamitous result or two a la Wafflepish alongside that scenario may be tho.
But I can't really see that happening.
I predict us winning the league, not by miles, but keeping a healthy 6 -8 point advantage over 2nd place.
And everything goes swimmingly & Robbie will be our hero

 
I really hope you’re right.

One thing I’d like to see is us going 2-0 up and instead of sitting in & protecting it (conceding one to invite a nervy end) but hitting one or 2 more, entertain the fans a bit

Yeah, a 4-0 season would be perfect.
And if Laurence is going to be scoring all these goals that we're predicting then yes, there will be 4-0 games.
Fingers crossed.