Tek wrote:

Siegrest - 6/10 - Generally did 'ok' today. Still looks a bit shaky at crosses though. Once he came out in complete no-man's land when Reynolds (I think it was) had it covered. But his header was weak and only broke to a Caley player who could have chipped Siegrest due to him being way off his line.

Seaman - 6/10 - Mixed day for the young man today. Tried to get forward once or twice. But caught out of position once also.

Connolly - 5/10 - Thought him and Reynolds looked a bit shaky at times today tbqh. Both lost the odd aerial challenge and were caught out of position on occasion also.

Reynolds - 5/10 - See above.

Robson - 6/10 - Was 'ok'. Nothing more, nothing less. 

Pawlett - 5/10 - Completely flattered to deceive for me. Which is pretty much how I feel about him as a player full-stop. Never beat a man all day long.

Cammy Smith - 5/10 - See above

Harkes - 6/10 - One of our better players. At least looked to stretch the play and get it wide on occasion. Too quiet overall though. But not helped by the 3 playing beside him.

Fyvie - 4/10 - Slow, ponderous and always looking to pass the ball sideways or backwards 5 yards. A waste of a jersey.

Clark - 6/10 - Took a good penalty (again). But the game passed him by other than that.

Safranko - 5/10 - The guy has scored a few goals for us,granted, but I don't quite rate him as highly as others. His general first touch and ability to hold the ball up and link the play too often seems poor to me. 

Subs -

Gomis - 5/10 - Contributed nothing when he came on. Was the wrong substitution imo (should have brought on Stanton). He summed up the ineptitude of our play in the final minute. Had the ball and just had to shell it into their box (where we had several players lurking) but instead he tamely hit the ball off of a Caley player about 5 yards in front of him and surrendered possession at the worst possible time.

McMullan - 6/10 - Sparked us a bit when he came on and also looked to have a wee bit more fire about him than others (liked him trying to gee up the Shed). Good shot at goal that Safranko and Pawlett made a hash of putting in on the rebound. Won us the penalty (though it was very soft imo) and generally looked at least interested.

P.s. where was Osman Sow today?

 
There was just so much wrong with that performance it's hard to know where to start. It's  beyond me that we are unable to string 2 passes together. That's how bad we are. I'm beginning to think that there is something very wrong here. We don't look like a football team. Don't know how to play it short, don't know when to play it long. Can't move the ball and retain it. Can't create. It's completely unfair to criticise the front two when the midfield is beyond shite

FWIW disagree about Siegrist, cleaned out several crosses with confident punches and saved really well from a one on one that looked a certain goal. Really don't see what more he was supposed  to do?

Robbies had enough time with these players to be able to create a blend. Something that resembles a pattern. But no, we have nothing. Really concerned tbh.

Welsh Trafford Chalmers Doran Polworth 5
Harkes Fyvie Smith Clark Pawlet 0
Never laid a glove on them.
Tremarco, Doran & McCart were rested on Tuesday & I wonder if we noticed.
Poor. Very poor.

Last edited by smedDUm (03/3/2019 11:34 pm)

Heard a rumour that Sow stormed off in the huff on Tuesday and that he's buggered off.

redford_must_score wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

redford_must_score wrote:

Our poor performance was down to the middle 4 ..Pawlett Fyvie Smith Harkes
There was complete inability to hold the ball under pressure with these 4. All four were terrible. No ability to link up, No ability to be patient, create space and danger. Their performance was what lost us the game They either pushed it back onto the back four, putting them under pressure or lumped it forward for the front two to chase in the air. Woeful stuff.

So for me the back 4 did what they could, the front two did what they could. But if you have a midfield 4 that keeps giving the ball away you're likely going to lose.

We have two front players in Clark and Safranko that will get you goals. I said a few weeks ago that Clark can't score from the bench and Robbie finally adds him in and he gives us goals. But they both need a strikers service, not punts up in the air.
As you can possibly tell I'm raging. Not because we're out of the cup but because Neilson is paid well to coach 11-14 players into a cohesive pattern, playing link up football that results in chances for the strikers. Is he? I don't see it to be honest.

Think you are right about the midfield. Hate to say it but Fyvie today reminded me a lot of the performances and problems of recent times. I was hoping he'd be subbed afore he was. Gomis was better but has me wondering how much we need a star in midfield that others games are completely changed by.

Pawlett had his worst game yet and so did young Charlie Seaman and Reynolds by their standards.

ICT pressed the way you hope yer team will and got the breaks and were allowed to back intae us aggressively without being penalised. It seemed to me they got it tactically right but were helped alit by our key players having a stinker.


RN changed the tactics enough for me not to be slaughtered. Was'nt oor day and onto 10 cup final style games.

Support was good. 6500 home fans did more than what 10's of thousands at bigger clubs don't.

Great effort fae the stands.

We have to get over this very quickly and do all we can as a support and team to rally like fuck for the 10 games that matter now.

 

 
Agree with what you're saying about get over it etc. I'm over being out the Cup, No problem with that at all. What I'm not over is the manner of defeat. I've seen plenty defeats and I can accept them if my team has played some football, made some chances, scored some, missed some. We didn't. We aren't. And that's what I'm really concerned about.

 

I get that mate.

Hope tae fuck the performance, especially from what has been key players is a one off.

Lots of comment and theories as to how we  lost the game on here.
Still comes down to power and strength in my book . Connolly and Reynolds to a lesser extent were the only 2 of our starting 11 who like a tackle. ICT have an entire team of tacklers.

I don't think it's a puzzle as to why we were beaten yesterday, or why we don't score enough goals.

We haven't signed an out and out winger for a number of years.

Sitting normally right in the middle of the East Stand, and yesterday slap bang middle of the Shed, it's so noticeable that we overplay things centrally and offer no width except when the full backs get forward. The opposition easily stifle our build up as a result.

Beharder wrote:

Tek wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Heard a rumour that Sow stormed off in the huff on Tuesday and that he's buggered off.

I was wondering if his lack of involvement had meant he had picked up an injury or what.

Last thing we need is this rumour to have any substance to it.
 

 
He went through an intensive warm up on Tuesday night at HT. He did not come on or take his place on the bench? RN should clear this up.

I never noticed myself but seemingly when Watson was put on late on (3rd sub) Sow headed straight down the tunnel. 
 

Yesterday we didnt turn up. From very early on you knew it wasnt going to be our day.
The players let the fans down. Neilson should have had fyvie off earlier. Shouldnt have started imo.
Just a total fuck up yesterday on the pitch.

Fyvie taking a lot of stick on here for yesterdays performance. IMO he was far from the worse player we had.  Gomis came on and showed why RN played Fyvie in the 1st place.
Onto Firhill.

Off topic-ish but can I just say Hearts are jammy bastards.
4th rd Hearts 1 Livi 0
5th rd Hearts 4 A Talbot 0
6th rd Thistle 1 Hearts 1
semi if they get thro v ICT
It's like a bye to the final.
Yeah I know, it could have been us....