Root and branch review tho.

Every summer our fans fall for bullshit stories.  It’s a wonder there’s not a lot of them being scammed by ‘Nigerian royalty’ they’re that gullible.

Ha ha. A lot of good points made here.

What more evidence do they need??!?!!!

Csaba is an absolute disaster area

If the board don’t act they are not fit to be in charge

So all you guys that didn't fall for it. What are you doing about it? And the ones that did fall for it? What are they doing?

The answer to both questions is nothing so what's the difference between these two groups, if they even exist?

Not today.

Are you going to explain what you're getting at?

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

So all you guys that didn't fall for it. What are you doing about it? And the ones that did fall for it? What are they doing?

The answer to both questions is nothing so what's the difference between these two groups, if they even exist?

 
Some of them created fans united and decided to protest. The ones that have been falling for it belittled said group, continue be in denial at how rotten we are, think we should keep quiet, back the team and accept that this is our level now.

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Arabnophobia wrote:

Majority of fans feel the same most of the time.

There's always a delay on the negative due to hope, patience, faith, knowledge of what we see and know etc but bickering or causing fan division does fuckall good.

If folk want change it'll be better achieved and faster without just creating a split in the support and havin a pop at eachothers style of support and timing of wanting change. That's the way it is so think harder and come up with better instead of bitching at eachother in a shite style.

MM has fuckall support, only some appreciation for improvements off the field.

 
What improvements off the field?

LS Arab wrote:

Chants against csaba like on Saturday won’t take long to be noticed.

Easier protesting against a manager than trying to get out a chairman who doesn’t want to give up control!

 
Yer right there LS Arab.

Rick Dagless wrote:

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

So all you guys that didn't fall for it. What are you doing about it? And the ones that did fall for it? What are they doing?

The answer to both questions is nothing so what's the difference between these two groups, if they even exist?

 
Some of them created fans united and decided to protest. The ones that have been falling for it belittled said group, continue be in denial at how rotten we are, think we should keep quiet, back the team and accept that this is our level now.

 
It's not that black n' white mate. "The one's that have being falling for it belittled said group."

You have no fucking idea who said what, we have 30,000 plus fans and online opinion is based on a fraction of which a good few's priority is their own self importance through posted opinion and chucking eachother into 1 or 2 baskets is an insult to the majority.

Nae offence intended to you but I'm sure as fuck a few comments online contribute to more than they justify and are seen as the majority's feeling and stance by some mate when they are only a fraction of the total support's opinion and actually just insult the majority.

I'm not happy with the running of the club or manager but worry that the fans effort to change that is diluted and easily dismissed by argueing amongst ourselves with points of view aimed against eachother through anger and arguements more that proactive efforts to Unite for positive change.

Fans for change won't gain unity when anyone not onboard with their style and effort are ridiculed and accused of being the opposite and in with the opposite.

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Arabnophobia wrote:

Rick Dagless wrote:

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

So all you guys that didn't fall for it. What are you doing about it? And the ones that did fall for it? What are they doing?

The answer to both questions is nothing so what's the difference between these two groups, if they even exist?

 
Some of them created fans united and decided to protest. The ones that have been falling for it belittled said group, continue be in denial at how rotten we are, think we should keep quiet, back the team and accept that this is our level now.

 
It's not that black n' white mate. "The one's that have being falling for it belittled said group."

You have no fucking idea who said what, we have 30,000 plus fans and online opinion is based on a fraction of which a good few's priority is their own self importance through posted opinion and chucking eachother into 1 or 2 baskets is an insult to the majority.

Nae offence intended to you but I'm sure as fuck a few comments online contribute to more than they justify and are seen as the majority's feeling and stance by some mate when they are only a fraction of the total support's opinion and actually just insult the majority.

I'm not happy with the running of the club or manager but worry that the fans effort to change that is diluted and easily dismissed by argueing amongst ourselves with points of view aimed against eachother through anger and arguements more that proactive efforts to Unite for positive change.

Fans for change won't gain unity when anyone not onboard with their style and effort are ridiculed and accused of being the opposite and in with the opposite.

 
You are right about it not being black and white, but I was just commenting in reply to goodies post.

Also not claiming to have any idea about who said what, again my post was a reply to the generalisation of goodies post.

To be clear I'm not a member of any fans group, I think there's too many for a club of our size and as you say it's diluted the fans voice because they all have their own agendas.

Rick Dagless wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

Rick Dagless wrote:

 
Some of them created fans united and decided to protest. The ones that have been falling for it belittled said group, continue be in denial at how rotten we are, think we should keep quiet, back the team and accept that this is our level now.

 
It's not that black n' white mate. "The one's that have being falling for it belittled said group."

You have no fucking idea who said what, we have 30,000 plus fans and online opinion is based on a fraction of which a good few's priority is their own self importance through posted opinion and chucking eachother into 1 or 2 baskets is an insult to the majority.

Nae offence intended to you but I'm sure as fuck a few comments online contribute to more than they justify and are seen as the majority's feeling and stance by some mate when they are only a fraction of the total support's opinion and actually just insult the majority.

I'm not happy with the running of the club or manager but worry that the fans effort to change that is diluted and easily dismissed by argueing amongst ourselves with points of view aimed against eachother through anger and arguements more that proactive efforts to Unite for positive change.

Fans for change won't gain unity when anyone not onboard with their style and effort are ridiculed and accused of being the opposite and in with the opposite.

 
You are right about it not being black and white, but I was just commenting in reply to goodies post.

Also not claiming to have any idea about who said what, again my post was a reply to the generalisation of goodies post.

To be clear I'm not a member of any fans group, I think there's too many for a club of our size and as you say it's diluted the fans voice because they all have their own agendas.

The generalisation of my post? Think you've misunderstood me.
My point is that regardless of what our fans opinions are of MM, nothing is being done. As far as I'm aware no-one is ploughing money into the club because they've "fallen for" what he's said, and at the other extreme there's no coherent or overt protest against the current regime. So the net result is the same, except a few in the vocal anti-MM brigade coming over all superior online against a mythical group of MM sympathisers.
 

Rick Dagless wrote:

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

Rick Dagless wrote:

 
You are right about it not being black and white, but I was just commenting in reply to goodies post.

Also not claiming to have any idea about who said what, again my post was a reply to the generalisation of goodies post.

To be clear I'm not a member of any fans group, I think there's too many for a club of our size and as you say it's diluted the fans voice because they all have their own agendas.

The generalisation of my post? Think you've misunderstood me.
My point is that regardless of what our fans opinions are of MM, nothing is being done. As far as I'm aware no-one is ploughing money into the club because they've "fallen for" what he's said, and at the other extreme there's no coherent or overt protest against the current regime. So the net result is the same, except a few in the vocal anti-MM brigade coming over all superior online against a mythical group of MM sympathisers.
 

 
The generalisation of your post I'm referring to is that fans are in either one of two camps when it's more complex than that.

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

So all you guys that didn't fall for it. What are you doing about it? And the ones that did fall for it? What are they doing?

The answer to both questions is nothing so what's the difference between these two groups, if they even exist?

You must've missed the bit in bold then
 

MM talks the talk very well but after Livi away shabba should’ve been sacked that night and a new manager should’ve been In for the new transfter window.

MM could’ve sacked Shabba for free but the continuity he was after was keeping United being shite like last season and before.

It’s unacceptable and I decided not to get a ST this year breaking my 10 season streak. It was really tough to do because I love United but I’m voting with my feet. I hoped others would’ve followed but sadly they didn’t.

I’m sick of the club taken us for granted. Charging us SPL prices for Divsion 1 football. Trying to fleece us £5 a month for Arabzone for 2 interviews a week and shit highlights when every other club Is free and updated long before our social media and highlights are. I’m sick of the club treating us like Idiots and feeding any old bullshit at us.

Fuck The regime. Fuck Shabba. Love United.