I'd be more worried about the playing staff. IE, if we kept over 50% of the current squad.  I think him doing a clear out is a notch in his column. Just concerned about whether hes any idea how to rebuild.

My support is not conditional. I am just as concerned as most Arabs about CLs managerial ability, but not going to the games until he goes, not for me

season ticket is already bought

ill be at as many games as possible home and away

I'm not happy he is still in the job and will pick and choose my games . . . . . . . . . that is depending on IF and when this saga of a takeover happens, if it happens in the next week or so and some serious money is put into the playing side of the club I may well buy a season ticket for the first time since the Armstrong/GMS shambles.

If there is regime change and we retain the manager then that would probably be a first in world football

Arabnophobia wrote:

Tangerine'n'Black wrote:

If Csaba has a proper clean out and horses all the dead wood out, he’ll go up in my estimation at last.

The rebuild ......hope he’s listening to Luggy while he’s at it.

 
Luggy is the man building the squad I'm told. Csaba didn't choose previous signings I'm also told and wasn't  happy at all with the size of them never mind quality of them.

 
If Luggy is building the squad, why is Csaba there?

It surely isn’t for his tactical genius.

TheShed wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

Tangerine'n'Black wrote:

If Csaba has a proper clean out and horses all the dead wood out, he’ll go up in my estimation at last.

The rebuild ......hope he’s listening to Luggy while he’s at it.

 
Luggy is the man building the squad I'm told. Csaba didn't choose previous signings I'm also told and wasn't happy at all with the size of them never mind quality of them.

 
If Luggy is building the squad, why is Csaba there?

It surely isn’t for his tactical genius.

Very fair and pertinent question.


 

I thought Luggy was just helping out Csaba to the end of the season?  Is he not just doing scouting going forward?

Last edited by Rick Dagless (14/5/2018 11:53 pm)

If the poll reflects the views of the overall support, Mike Martin has huge cause for concern at his decision to retain Csaba.

Here's a train of thought on the present manager: he wants to settle in Scotland, has a home in Edinburgh and would like to put down roots.

Getting the job at United is a huge blessing to him, as in reality his record at other jobs isn't as good as some would lead us to believe. In fact, it almost looks like his agent has written his Wiki entry.

His deal at Tannadice runs to the end of season 2018-19, he accepts the conditions but early in his reign things begin to go awry (as they have in many other of his appointments). He speaks to the board about the difficulties he is facing, using the last manager's squad, disruptive influences in the dressing room and so on. He indicates the play-offs might be the best we can hope for.

Once in the play-offs, he's in a quandary. If United do by some miracle go up, he may be found out pretty quickly at a higher level, and might be out with a shattered reputation by October. But promotion would look good on his CV. It's a win-win for Csaba, in his mind, no matter what happens.

To compound this, MM has confirmed he's keeping the manager on, no matter the outcome of the play-offs. So Csaba might get us up next year (in his mind), and even get a contract extension (in his mind). Better than the boot in October this year?

I've been told that I've been overthinking this theory, which I put to folk on our bus before the Livi match. But, to me, the substitutions and tactics made by Csaba in the play-offs were those of a man quite content for us to fail at these hurdles this season, in the hope that we could go up next, with the subsequent reward of another two year deal.

I'm just looking for explanations as to why the manager fucked up badly in so many matches after Christmas this year.

PatReilly wrote:

If the poll reflects the views of the overall support, Mike Martin has huge cause for concern at his decision to retain Csaba.

Here's a train of thought on the present manager: he wants to settle in Scotland, has a home in Edinburgh and would like to put down roots.

Getting the job at United is a huge blessing to him, as in reality his record at other jobs isn't as good as some would lead us to believe. In fact, it almost looks like his agent has written his Wiki entry.

His deal at Tannadice runs to the end of season 2018-19, he accepts the conditions but early in his reign things begin to go awry (as they have in many other of his appointments). He speaks to the board about the difficulties he is facing, using the last manager's squad, disruptive influences in the dressing room and so on. He indicates the play-offs might be the best we can hope for.

Once in the play-offs, he's in a quandary. If United do by some miracle go up, he may be found out pretty quickly at a higher level, and might be out with a shattered reputation by October. But promotion would look good on his CV. It's a win-win for Csaba, in his mind, no matter what happens.

To compound this, MM has confirmed he's keeping the manager on, no matter the outcome of the play-offs. So Csaba might get us up next year (in his mind), and even get a contract extension (in his mind). Better than the boot in October this year?

I've been told that I've been overthinking this theory, which I put to folk on our bus before the Livi match. But, to me, the substitutions and tactics made by Csaba in the play-offs were those of a man quite content for us to fail at these hurdles this season, in the hope that we could go up next, with the subsequent reward of another two year deal.

I'm just looking for explanations as to why the manager fucked up badly in so many matches after Christmas this year.

Sorry Pat I think you are overthinking this. My view is the Csaba is a complete numptie who hasn’t got a scooby. What I need an answer to is why has Martin decided to keep him. Does he watch games with his eyes shut. Does he not cringe when he sees some of the subs or Lyng on the park. Does he ever speak to Csaba and get an understanding of what his game plan is and how it’s going to work given all failures to date. Csaba’s lost 1 in 3 games of which only 1 was to a Premier League side. I’d just love to know what going on in Martins mind. Maybe he hates United fans

shedboy wrote:

RRDH wrote:

I'd be more worried about the playing staff. IE, if we kept over 50% of the current squad. I think him doing a clear out is a notch in his column. Just concerned about whether hes any idea how to rebuild.

This 100%

CCX2 2010 wrote:

he 100% needs to leave.

I can't quite believe some think he should be given money and time, we knew McNamara should have gone at the end of the season and paid the price an here we are going into a new season with the fans split on the manager again.

Our rivals next season will be Partick and County both with decent budgets I would imagine, Dunfermline who finished the season on a bit of form and a club with a point to prove, Inverness likewise with Dunfermline (nearly got there but ran out of games).

We have been relegation form under Lazlo since he came in and we must not make the same mistake again.

I would have thought it will be County and Partick or Livi?