Ex Houston Arab wrote:

With the news that ray has found the time to nip over to Ireland and check out the opposition for the shambles shield I thought I'd see if anyone knew what our chief scout and DoF is up to.

I haven't heard anything since he went down to check out the Leeds Bolton first team game in august to see who fancied leaving the English championship for a crack at the Scottish second tier.

At the time of appointment I was sceptical. It seemed misguided to give one of Raymond's background team a promotion, when that same management team had been found wanting in delivering football of a winning and entertaining nature.

The appointment was dressed up in that the DoF had given up a £90,000 year job to take the Tannadice position. So he had football ambitions, so the board appeared to believe. However, I understand the lad was working for a home improvement company (correct me if I'm wrong), and can't understand what the criteria were in choosing him. 

Were there any other candidates? In any case, to date, his abilities are unproven.

Regarding the manager checking out Crusaders, I think their game is Monday evening, so it'll not cause his planning for the Dumbarton game too much disruption: if any planning is actually done. I've no time for the Irn Bru cup in the present format, but I'm not too upset if he has prioritised that tournament. In fact, maybe he should just play his first choice eleven, as the two week break last round did them no good at all.
 

Last edited by PatReilly (20/10/2017 9:45 am)

bowers wrote:

Yeh Ray and whoever he chooses  to accompany him on this mission will be on an all expenses jolly up to Belfast whilst anyone else can watch it live on TV.

 

Fuck sake Bowers. I ken you hate st and hate ray and hate anything which has become related to dufc/' the snake but give it a rest.

You make it sound like a 2 week trip to some exotic country while United pick up the tab for his every luxurious whim.

In truth he will leave on the Monday afternoon, drive to get the ferry watch the game, stay in a standard hotel and drive back in the morning. I'd guess the total cost for him and whoever he chooses to go with him will be 400 quid. Not exactly the bank breaking stuff you hint at

Tangy wrote:

bowers wrote:

Yeh Ray and whoever he chooses  to accompany him on this mission will be on an all expenses jolly up to Belfast whilst anyone else can watch it live on TV.

 

Fuck sake Bowers. I ken you hate st and hate ray and hate anything which has become related to dufc/' the snake but give it a rest.

You make it sound like a 2 week trip to some exotic country while United pick up the tab for his every luxurious whim.

In truth he will leave on the Monday afternoon, drive to get the ferry watch the game, stay in a standard hotel and drive back in the morning. I'd guess the total cost for him and whoever he chooses to go with him will be 400 quid. Not exactly the bank breaking stuff you hint at

 
Probably not even that. A cheap return flight over there on Monday afternoon a comp for the game or admission of about 20 quid max. He'll either return that night or it'll be a night in a budget hotel of less than 100 quid and back early doors. Probably back either before or during training on Tuesday. Hardly budget breaking stuff and the exact same thing every manager would do for unknown opposition.

blackandtangerine wrote:

Tangy wrote:

bowers wrote:

Yeh Ray and whoever he chooses  to accompany him on this mission will be on an all expenses jolly up to Belfast whilst anyone else can watch it live on TV.

 

Fuck sake Bowers. I ken you hate st and hate ray and hate anything which has become related to dufc/' the snake but give it a rest.

You make it sound like a 2 week trip to some exotic country while United pick up the tab for his every luxurious whim.

In truth he will leave on the Monday afternoon, drive to get the ferry watch the game, stay in a standard hotel and drive back in the morning. I'd guess the total cost for him and whoever he chooses to go with him will be 400 quid. Not exactly the bank breaking stuff you hint at

400 quid. Do you honestly think we should be paying him to do that when the games live on telly? C'mon tae fuck. Thats just chucking money away for a game where hes gonna play the bairns again.
 

 £400 quid each this time, how many times does it get done.
From my original point I also stated that Taylor went down to England to watch a first team championship game - why??? None of those players would come to us.
It's just poor decision after poor decision pissing money up against the wall.
Why are we spending money to scout a team in a tournament we should be sending out the kids?
Why do we have a double glazing salesman as our director of football that has to be earning at least £70k per year otherwise he would never have left said double glazing job that paid him £60k plus allowed him time off to make money at junior football.

It's all these little things we are accepting that are plunging us further into the shite and to be honest it's the fans couldn't care less attitude that is letting these fucking morons continue with their abject buffoonery.

Ex Houston....

Because I can't be fucked trying to micromanage every decision made by the football club. Tbh some (Not pointing the finger st anybody in paeticular) get such a boner about the financials of the club and they don't have the background to understand why....they get angry and moan about it for a while then move onto the next thing.

But going back to my point, Bowers made a comment which he is allowed to do - this is a message board. The implication of his comments were that ray was away to take a pal to Ibiza for a week to get leathered on the season ticjet money.Which winds up other folk and leads to a more depressing club.

Everybody who gets involved with United is subject to abuse. Spence got it. Ram duthie gets it. Even one of my all time United legends light was getting from folk on mad...

The club is never going to move forward while all the bile flows from the stands. And before you say it yes ST has a lot to do with it and has his faults but we don't have a viable alternative at the moment unless the yellow scarf brigade have a multimillionaire sitting in the wings. I'd love it but doubt it.

Tangy wrote:

Ex Houston....

Because I can't be fucked trying to micromanage every decision made by the football club. Tbh some (Not pointing the finger st anybody in paeticular) get such a boner about the financials of the club and they don't have the background to understand why....they get angry and moan about it for a while then move onto the next thing.

But going back to my point, Bowers made a comment which he is allowed to do - this is a message board. The implication of his comments were that ray was away to take a pal to Ibiza for a week to get leathered on the season ticjet money.Which winds up other folk and leads to a more depressing club.

Everybody who gets involved with United is subject to abuse. Spence got it. Ram duthie gets it. Even one of my all time United legends light was getting from folk on mad...

The club is never going to move forward while all the bile flows from the stands. And before you say it yes ST has a lot to do with it and has his faults but we don't have a viable alternative at the moment unless the yellow scarf brigade have a multimillionaire sitting in the wings. I'd love it but doubt it.

 
I don't generally talk much about the finances either.
As I've said on previous posts I just want to turn up and enjoy the football on display in the top six of the top league.
I didn't say much about it but the more I hear about our finances from people in the know, the more I panic about a glorified tea boy running our club and making bad mistakes but not learning from them.
I work for a much bigger company than united. We are going through tough times but no where near as perilous. There is a 6 month travel ban on all employees including CEO. These are the measures needing taken - apparently not at our club that is technically insolvent.
That's the sort of incompetence that boils my piss

blackandtangerine wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Tangy wrote:

 

Fuck sake Bowers. I ken you hate st and hate ray and hate anything which has become related to dufc/' the snake but give it a rest.

You make it sound like a 2 week trip to some exotic country while United pick up the tab for his every luxurious whim.

In truth he will leave on the Monday afternoon, drive to get the ferry watch the game, stay in a standard hotel and drive back in the morning. I'd guess the total cost for him and whoever he chooses to go with him will be 400 quid. Not exactly the bank breaking stuff you hint at

 
Probably not even that. A cheap return flight over there on Monday afternoon a comp for the game or admission of about 20 quid max. He'll either return that night or it'll be a night in a budget hotel of less than 100 quid and back early doors. Probably back either before or during training on Tuesday. Hardly budget breaking stuff and the exact same thing every manager would do for unknown opposition.

 Sorry but when youve got to get loans to survive then spunking money on a spying mission when the games live on tv disnae wash.

You see and learn a lot more watching a game in person than on tv.
 

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

Tangy wrote:

 

Fuck sake Bowers. I ken you hate st and hate ray and hate anything which has become related to dufc/' the snake but give it a rest.

You make it sound like a 2 week trip to some exotic country while United pick up the tab for his every luxurious whim.

In truth he will leave on the Monday afternoon, drive to get the ferry watch the game, stay in a standard hotel and drive back in the morning. I'd guess the total cost for him and whoever he chooses to go with him will be 400 quid. Not exactly the bank breaking stuff you hint at

400 quid. Do you honestly think we should be paying him to do that when the games live on telly? C'mon tae fuck. Thats just chucking money away for a game where hes gonna play the bairns again.
 

 £400 quid each this time, how many times does it get done.
From my original point I also stated that Taylor went down to England to watch a first team championship game - why??? None of those players would come to us.
It's just poor decision after poor decision pissing money up against the wall.
Why are we spending money to scout a team in a tournament we should be sending out the kids?
Why do we have a double glazing salesman as our director of football that has to be earning at least £70k per year otherwise he would never have left said double glazing job that paid him £60k plus allowed him time off to make money at junior football.

It's all these little things we are accepting that are plunging us further into the shite and to be honest it's the fans couldn't care less attitude that is letting these fucking morons continue with their abject buffoonery.

that's it..

how many of these all expense paid jollys go on per season when we are in financial fucking meltdown that can be cut back on?

​its fucking crusaders in the irn bru cup we are playing which we have mostly played u20 players in to date..
​the game is live on tv why cant he do his mission from the comfort of his or one of the merry mens living room?

​things like this that the club should be cutting back on to save funds especially when the next loan is just around the corner.

lifesanocean wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

 
Probably not even that. A cheap return flight over there on Monday afternoon a comp for the game or admission of about 20 quid max. He'll either return that night or it'll be a night in a budget hotel of less than 100 quid and back early doors. Probably back either before or during training on Tuesday. Hardly budget breaking stuff and the exact same thing every manager would do for unknown opposition.

 Sorry but when youve got to get loans to survive then spunking money on a spying mission when the games live on tv disnae wash.

You see and learn a lot more watching a game in person than on tv.
 

​can you pause and rewind it sitting at the match now?

​like he will no doubt do when he gets back and has to watch over it again.

bowers wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

 Sorry but when youve got to get loans to survive then spunking money on a spying mission when the games live on tv disnae wash.

You see and learn a lot more watching a game in person than on tv.
 

​can you pause and rewind it sitting at the match now?

​like he will no doubt do when he gets back and has to watch over it again.

 its clear you have a pathological hatred for all things utd post 2015 that your opinion fair enough.
But too suggest that it is just as beneficial to watch the opposition as it is too watch it live shows a clear lack of judgement on your part. Judging by comments you have made in the past about youtube managers I think you must have just let your boiling anger get in the way of your judgement.

Beharder wrote:

bowers wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

You see and learn a lot more watching a game in person than on tv.
 

​can you pause and rewind it sitting at the match now?

​like he will no doubt do when he gets back and has to watch over it again.

 its clear you have a pathological hatred for all things utd post 2015 that your opinion fair enough.
But too suggest that it is just as beneficial to watch the opposition as it is too watch it live shows a clear lack of judgement on your part. Judging by comments you have made in the past about youtube managers I think you must have just let your boiling anger get in the way of your judgement.

 


Once again from you thats nonsense. And if thats what you think in your first part of your post then ill end my contribution to replying on this post now.
If you want to continue my pms inbox is empty.

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