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10/10/2017 8:27 am  #226


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"Revolver" and Pet Sounds" are two of the best Albums ever written/recorded in popular music in my humble opinion.

Would give both albums 9/10

Did you take to it straight away?
Just wondering, as I said earlier a lot of people have said it was a slow burner, and took a few plays to appreciate.
Maybe an acquired taste?


 


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10/10/2017 10:29 am  #227


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DAY 62
Fred Neil...........Fred Neil   (1966)




Essential listening for all singer-songwriters, this album contains no filler. That said, there are two obvious peaks. Understated classic " Everybody's Talkin' " became a global pop smash for the great Harry Nilsson, whose speeded up version featured in the movie Midnight Cowboy.

"The Dolphins" insinuates itself with a yearning, elliptical melody, while the lyric conflates philosophy and environmentalism. The track was regularly covered by Tim Buckley; it's author donated all royalyies to dolphin conservation charities.

Interesting? 


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10/10/2017 5:34 pm  #228


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I'm out the area the now but in summary,  don't like Pet Sounds or Fred Neil too much.

 

10/10/2017 10:18 pm  #229


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PatReilly wrote:

I'm out the area the now but in summary, don't like Pet Sounds or Fred Neil too much.

Still on the ball, good to know Pat  
 


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10/10/2017 10:41 pm  #230


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DAY 62
Fred Neil...........Fred Neil   (1966)




A bit different but not in a bad way, had never heard of the man let alone listened to him singing.

I quite enjoyed most of it, but certainly not the last track, an instrumental that made me turn it off half way through.

Fred Neil had a very distictive baritone singing voice which I particularly liked, but not enough to buy.

So sorry Fred, you won't be part of my collection.

Found it hard to find much about the man, but if it's not too morbid here's his obituary which covers most things.

He wrote one of the most famous songs of the late 20th century, but Fred Neil, who has died aged 64 of cancer, remains one of the most mysterious cult heroes of folk music.

Famously reclusive, he was an influential figure on the 1960s New York folk scene, and was occasionally backed by the young Bob Dylan on harmonica at the all-night Cafe Wha? in Greenwich Village.

He took flight almost from the day Harry Nilsson turned his song, Everybody's Talkin' into a global hit in 1970, following its use as the theme of the Dustin Hoffman-Jon Voight movie Midnight Cowboy (1969).Neil rarely gave interviews, could not stomach fame, and appeared repulsed at the success of his song, a disdainful commentary on human alienation in public life. In fact, it had already appeared on Neil's 1966 solo album, alongside another song, The Dolphins, which reflected his fascination with mammals.

Unimpressed by the trappings of fame, and with no interest in exploiting the opportunities offered by his hit, Neil had withdrawn by 1971 to set up a dolphin rescue project in Florida with marine biologist Richard O'Barry, who trained the dolphins for the television series Flipper. He refused all attempts to persuade him into a comeback, and devoted the rest of his life to protecting dolphins.

Even in the 1960s, he was a fiercely private character. Born in St Petersburg, Florida, he first came to attention in 1956 playing guitar with Buddy Holly, for whom he wrote the single, Modern Don Juan, before Holly cracked the charts. He also wrote Candy Man, the B-side of Roy Orbison's 1961 hit, Crying.

On the back of this success, Neil moved to New York. Dylan later nominated him as one of his primary inspirations: "He had a powerful bass voice and a powerful sense of rhythm. I'd play harmonica for him, and once in a while get to sing a song."
Tim Hardin, Tim Buckley and David Crosby were strongly influenced by Neil, and his songs were also covered by Richie Havens, HP Lovecraft and Casey Anderson.

In the early days, Neil performed in a duo with Vince Taylor, with whom he recorded the album, Tear Down The Walls. His first solo album, Bleecker & Mac Dougal (1965), named after streets in Greenwich Village, became a benchmark for many emergent young singer-songwriters, with one of the songs on the album, The Other Side Of This Life subsequently covered by Lovin' Spoonful, Jefferson Airplane and the Youngbloods. It was also the title of a live album recorded in Los Angeles, with the country-rock pioneer Gram Parsons among the backing musicians.•

Fred Neil, singer and songwriter, born January 1 1937; died July 7 2001


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11/10/2017 10:08 am  #231


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DAY 63.
The Byrds.........Fifth Dimension   (1966)





It is a curious feature of The Byrds career that as their popularity waned, and as personality clashes arose, they produced their best work.

The pressures of touring, and being the group's chief songwriter, finally got to Gene Clark, who quit in early 1966.

Forced to push their own songwriting skills to offset this crucial loss, David Crosby and Roger McGuinn began to find their own voices.

Hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but no' gonna hold my breath.  (after listening to " Mr Tambourine Man")


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11/10/2017 11:21 pm  #232


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DAY 63.
The Byrds.........Fifth Dimension   (1966)




The American Beatles ? Your having a laugh, where anyone gets this idea from i'll never know.

Started off pretty so-so, then the second track, a God awful cover of "Wild Mountain Thyme," then more so-so.
The second side opens up with "Eight Miles High" and I'm thinking this is no' bad, then there's this guitar solo that seems to go on forever, which for me holds no relevance whatsoever to the song.

I have to 'fess up, i'm not a great lover of guitar solos, at a concert I can live with, but in both cases strikes me as a bit self indulgent and in the case of concerts, time for a piss.

The rest of the album is more of the same, so-so, until the last track  "2-4-2 (The Lear Jet Song)" that's a belter, it sounds like a jet engine reving up all the way through, with a nauseating repetitive chant thrown in for good measure.

Seems to me they thought we've got a couple of no' bad songs, pad it out with some fillers, chuck in a few guitar solos and call it "our psychedelic period" and the American press will lap it up, and label us the "American Beatles."

This really does put me in mind of  "The Emporers New Clothes"
I'm sure you can tell, this will not be going into my collection, and I hope that's the last I'll be hearing of The Byrds, but I think this book weighs quite heavily in favour of American artists so far, so not holding out much hope.

I was trying to find out some more bits about The Byrds, when I stumbled upon this.

"Eight Miles High" seemed to come out of nowhere — as did so much great 1960s music — but in retrospect there’s a clear lineage:The cluttered, borderline dissonant instrumental sections were unprecedented in rock & roll, but not in jazz, where artists such as John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman shunned traditional harmonic structure in favor of free-form heroics.The Byrds made much of “Eight Miles High’s” primary inspiration, the song "India" from Coltrane’s “Impressions” album. Group guitarist Jim (Roger) McGuinn, gobsmacked by Coltrane’s “forceful, rebellious attitude,” imitated the saxophone visionary’s solos via a distorted 12-string Rickenbacker. Coltrane’s playing “felt like a white-hot poker was searing through my chest,” McGuinn said years later.

And with that, the defence rests it's case.


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12/10/2017 12:22 am  #233


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arabchanter wrote:

Tek wrote:

"Revolver" and Pet Sounds" are two of the best Albums ever written/recorded in popular music in my humble opinion.

Would give both albums 9/10

Did you take to it straight away?
Just wondering, as I said earlier a lot of people have said it was a slow burner, and took a few plays to appreciate.
Maybe an acquired taste?


 

​"Pet Sounds" on initial listen (at 19) I thought was 'ok' but I must confess didn't see what the fuss was quite about from the critics (or my old Man).

​Years, experience and life etc have subsequently made me consider a magnificent album .Not just in terms of songwriting (melodies,vocals and harmonies just different class) but also in terms of production.

Tracks like " God Only Knows", "Caroline No", and "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" were only really deciphered by me and truly appreciated by me over 20 years.
 

 

12/10/2017 8:05 am  #234


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Tek wrote:

arabchanter wrote:

Tek wrote:

"Revolver" and Pet Sounds" are two of the best Albums ever written/recorded in popular music in my humble opinion.

Would give both albums 9/10

Did you take to it straight away?
Just wondering, as I said earlier a lot of people have said it was a slow burner, and took a few plays to appreciate.
Maybe an acquired taste?


 

​"Pet Sounds" on initial listen (at 19) I thought was 'ok' but I must confess didn't see what the fuss was quite about from the critics (or my old Man).

​Years, experience and life etc have subsequently made me consider a magnificent album .Not just in terms of songwriting (melodies,vocals and harmonies just different class) but also in terms of production.

Tracks like " God Only Knows", "Caroline No", and "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" were only really deciphered by me and truly appreciated by me over 20 years.
 

That's pretty much the same as me.  I remember buying Pet Sounds on CD when I was about 18 and I thought it was shit, but now I love it.
 

 

12/10/2017 10:11 am  #235


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SlatefordArab wrote:

Tek wrote:

arabchanter wrote:

Did you take to it straight away?
Just wondering, as I said earlier a lot of people have said it was a slow burner, and took a few plays to appreciate.
Maybe an acquired taste?


 

​"Pet Sounds" on initial listen (at 19) I thought was 'ok' but I must confess didn't see what the fuss was quite about from the critics (or my old Man).

​Years, experience and life etc have subsequently made me consider a magnificent album .Not just in terms of songwriting (melodies,vocals and harmonies just different class) but also in terms of production.

Tracks like " God Only Knows", "Caroline No", and "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" were only really deciphered by me and truly appreciated by me over 20 years.
 

That's pretty much the same as me.  I remember buying Pet Sounds on CD when I was about 18 and I thought it was shit, but now I love it.
 

Thanks for the your thoughts lads, looks like i'll have to put "Pet Sounds" on the subbies bench along with "Highway 61 Revisited," and give them both a couple of more spins to see if they grow on me.


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12/10/2017 10:36 am  #236


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DAY 64.
Bob Dylan.........Blonde On Blonde   (1966)




Blonde On Blonde's wild blues establishes a sense of late-night rants, reflections, and desperation. The direct rock 'n' roll such as " I Want You" switch in a heartbeat into heartbreaking ballads such as "Visions Of Johanna" or the touching melancholy of " Just Like A Woman" while closer "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" is a manifesto for the lovelorn.

This was rocks first double album, and being surreal yet perceptive, Dylans poetic observations suggest that the "voice of a generation" tag is more deserved for charting an age's inner feelings rather than protesting it's political beliefs.


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12/10/2017 4:41 pm  #237


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The needle's stuck on the record for me, a lot of lauded albums the now I don't really like, a bit similar to the jazz phase the list was on earlier.

Well done arabchanter for sticking with it.

 

12/10/2017 11:14 pm  #238


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DAY 64.
Bob Dylan.........Blonde On Blonde   (1966)




To be honest i'm a great believer in the shuffle mode when listening to music, there aren't very many artists that I can listen to for a whole album.

Unfortunately  Mr Bob comes into this category, but this double  album for some unknown reason didn't have me racing to hit the F/F button.

Whether it's because it has many different genres, or I just like all the tracks who knows?
The bottom line is I really liked this double album, especially
"Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues again"

So this one shall be added to my collection.

Rock’s first double album.
The ’60s produced a string of iconic doubles, including, "Electric Wonderland" and
the "White Album"and Freak Out"

Yet it’s Blonde on Blonde that has the distinction of being first.*Amphetamines fueled Dylan’s composing — or did they? *Rock critics often cite Dylan’s all-night recording sessions as proof of his heavy use on speed in late 1965 and ’66. The man himself has wavered on the subject.

In a 1969 interview  for *Rolling Stone *he admitted, “I was on the road for almost five years. It wore me down. I was on drugs, a lot of things. A lot of things just to keep going.” However, in 1984 he walked backthose words, saying, “I never got hooked on any drug.”

Dylan ditches New York City for Nashville.
He isn’t the first rocker to record in the Country Musical Capitol,  Elvis, The Everly Brothers and Roy Orbison all beat him to the punch. Yet he certainly is the first counterculture musician to make use of the city’s outstanding studios, as well as ace session musicians like Charlie McCoy, Joe South and Kenny Buttrey, all of whom appear on the album.
High praise from Dylan himself.
The rock legend famously described the record as, “The closest I ever got to the sound I hear in my mind… that wild mercury sound.”
“Like Bob Dylan impersonating John Lennon impersonating Bob Dylan.
That’s how Princeton University professor Sean Wilentz described album highlight “4th Time Around” in 2010’s

It has been speculated the tune is a playful homage to The Beatles’ similarly sounding “Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown),” which itself was inspired by Dylan.

What’s up with that blurry photograph on the cover?
According to photographer Jerry Schatzberg, it certainly wasn’t intentional. “I know all the critics think, ‘They were trying to do a drug shot,’” he said in 2015. “It’s not true. It was February. It was really cold. And to his credit, he chose that photograph.”
Keep an eye on the janitor.
Dylan recorded the bulk of the tracks at Music Row’s Columbia Studio B, where the guy mopping the floors and taking out the trash every night was a young songwriter-in-the-making by the name of Kris Kristofferson.
“Rainy Day Women #12 & 35” goes bluegrass.
The world has coughed up far too many Dylan covers to keep track. One of the most idiosyncratic has to be Flatt & Scruggs’ rendition of the album’s iconic hippie drug anthem. “Everybody must get stoned!”*Edie Sedgewick… Dylan’s muse. *Though his exact relationship with the Andy Warhol superstar is shrouded in rumor, it’s widely believed that two of Blonde on Blonde’s greatest cuts, “Just Like a Woman” and “Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat,” are about Sedgewick.
“Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands” is rock’s first side-long track.
Recorded in a single take shortly before dawn, the 11-plus minute meditation on his then-wife, Sara Dylan, takes up the entirety of side four. 1966 was a pioneering year for rock opuses. In addition to The Stones’ “Goin' Home.
(11:13), there was Love’s “Revalation” (18:57) and the Paul Butterfield Blues band’s “East West” (13:10). 
Dylan knew he was hitting a once-in-a-lifetime peak.
According to Sherrel Tippens author of Inside the Dream Palace: The Life and Times of New York’s Legendary Chelsea Hotel, the young Dylan sensed he would never again create something as singular as Blonde on Blonde: “He would continue making records, he told a friend after recording ‘Visions of Johanna,’ but ‘they’re not gonna be any better from now on’.”

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13/10/2017 10:07 am  #239


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PatReilly wrote:

The needle's stuck on the record for me, a lot of lauded albums the now I don't really like, a bit similar to the jazz phase the list was on earlier.

Well done arabchanter for sticking with it.

Thanks again Pat

Maybe today's might be of interest, never heard of them but supposed to be one of the first punk albums,
but then I think we've heard that before!
 


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13/10/2017 10:16 am  #240


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DAY 65.
The Monks.......Black Monk Time   (1966)







The Monk's "Black Monk Time" is one hell of a contender for "the first punk album," and as hollow and silly as such a title might be, the group certainly do sound much more normal today than they possibly could have in their milieu.

 

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13/10/2017 8:38 pm  #241


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Great album! 

I appreciate some folk will listen to this and dismiss it as shite, that's ok, for if everyone loved the same thing, you'd all have married my granny.

And where would we be then?

Not sure about it being the first punk album, but I'm sure Black Monk Time must have been a huge influence on many musicians. And one of the things about it all: the songs sound like they were having great fun, while a lot of music sounds like a chore. 'I Hate You' is nothing short of fantastic (covered by The Fall too).

Daft, mad stuff, it's what I enjoy. Thanks for reminding me, arabchanter.

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14/10/2017 12:08 am  #242


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DAY 65.
The Monks.......Black Monk Time   (1966)






Well, that after hearing The Byrds, The Beach Boys and Bob Dylan in the last few days, this couldn't be more of a contrast.

Although I liked the afore mentioned albums in varying degrees, I have to be honest this type of album is what gets me going most. This album is full of fun,energy and taking into account it's over 50 years old unbridled devilment !

As for being the first punk album, that's for more knowledgable people than I, but what I can say is, if you have a spare 30 minutes give it a listen and make your own mind up, I certainly liked it and will be making a space for it in my collection.

While looking for stuff about The Monks I came across this, obviously no' the same Monks,


  • The Monks were Richard Hudson and John Ford who formed Hudson-Ford after leaving The Strawbs in 1973. The duo scored two UK Top 20 hits, "Pick Up The Pieces" and "Burn Baby Burn" in 1973-74.

  • This song was a demo, not intended for release, which the duo recorded under the name The Mugs, as it was different to their usual material. However, French label Carrere misread their name, hence The Monks. Ford, who was working on a new project at the time told Mojo magazine April 2009 that the song's success came as a surprise. He explained: "We forgot all about Nice Legs… It was a bit of a problem when it was a hit."


  • Ford explained the story behind the song's title to Mojo: "It was my first wife's saying. I'd drive around and be wearing dark glasses, and she would say that if she thought I was eyeing up a woman."

  • Mind o' seeing them as Hudson Ford at The Caird Hall back in the 70's, they were pretty good imho.

 

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  • 1966. London was swinging, the Byrds soared on the wings of their most innovative single, "Eight Miles High," Brian Wilson labored in the studio on a legendary lost masterpiece and the Yardbirds fronted the mightiest lineup in rock n roll, with Messrs. Beck and Page on dual lead guitars. Pop Art and its bastard stepchild, Psychedelia, were about to rule the airwaves.
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  • But from Germany there came dark rumblings that hadn’t been heard since the Nuremberg Rallies of the 1930s. Guitar and organ howled in orgiastic competition as a thunderous tribal beat bludgeoned song structures into strange forms. Rhythmic cadences echoed the slap of jackboots goose-stepping down Berlin’s boulevards. There were also strained and shrill vocals, eerily reminiscent of a sputtering orator disposed of only 20 years before in the ruins of the Reich Chancellery’s garden.All that was missing were the chorus of hoarse "Sieg Heil"s. Even then, there were aural equivalents in a song called "Complication." The lead singer chanted :"complication, complication" as the backing vocalists intoned "people cry for you, people die for you" over and over. The effect is mesmerizing, as is the rest of the Monks’ 1966 debut album, "Black Monk Time" strangely enough, there wasn’t a war criminal in sight, just five decent, clean-cut  American boys playing rock n roll. It’s taken over thirty years for music to catch up with the ground work laid by the Monks on their one and only album.

 

  •  Formed in 1964 by five American GIs stationed in Germany, the Monks started off as a very traditional rock n roll outfit. Initially called the Torquays, the band played the standard beat music of the day. The musicians (Gary Burger, lead guitar/vocals; Larry Clark, organ/vocals; Dave Day, rhythm guitar/vocals; Roger Johnston, drums/vocals and Eddie Shaw, bass/vocals) covered Chuck Berry tunes, surf music and various songs by British Invasion artists.Fortunately, the band was comprised of highly imaginative musicians. They soon tired of the expected format and began experimenting with their sound, focusing almost solely on rhythm."We got rid of melody. We substituted dissonance and clashing harmonics," bassist Eddie Shaw said. "Everything was rhythmically oriented. Bam, bam, bam. We concentrated on over-beat."The music did not come out of the blue, however. The lead guitar player, Gary Burger, elaborated on the process. "It probably took us a year to get the sound right," he recalled. "We experimented all the time. A lot of the experiments were total failures and some of the songs we worked on were terrible. But the ones we kept felt like they had something special to them. And they became more defined over time

  •  One of the components in this alchemy of sound was feedback. Burger discovered feedback independently of the many English players who have all been heralded at one time or another as the inventor of said effect."We were practicing and I had to take a leak," Burger said. "I laid the guitar against the amp and walked off the stage. I forgot to turn it off and the thing began to make this god-awful racket. It started off humming and then it increased in volume. Roger started hitting his drums and it sounded so right together."

  • Also a nominee for the greatest rock n roll singer ever, Gary Burger’s vocals often crack, confirming the confusion and fury of a young man frightened of Vietnam and nuclear bombs. Spitting and strangling on the lyrics, Burger conveys rage in a way no punk vocalist has ever matched.

  • Out of this voodoo stew, twisted songs with dadaist titles began to coagulate; "Oh, How To Do Now," "Shut Up" and "Higgle-dy-Piggle-dy" to name just a few.

  •  After being discharged from the Army, their image evolved. They dropped the first name, exchanging it for a new moniker, the Monks. Momentous changes were ensuing in their style, both musically and sartorially."We went into a barbershop on the spur of the moment and either me or Dave Day got our head shaved in a tonsure like a monk’s," the drummer, Roger Johnston recalled. "Then the rest of the guys did. I really don’t know why, but we did it."

  •  Drugs, in the form of speed, entered the Monks’ world during their tenure in Hamburg."I’d be tired, playing all night and drinking late to unwind when we got off," Roger Johnston reminisced. "Oma would give me a pill to pep me up, so I could play a show the next night."Oma was an elderly German woman, who had also introduced the Beatles to speed a few years earlier. Johnston began to rely on the pills to help him get through the long grinding sets. Some of the Monks, barring Larry Clark, also took speed on occasion.
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  •  One must keep in mind, too, this was an era when rock groups were beginning to overindulge themselves in the studio. Mono was giving way to stereo and four track recordings were considered a hindrance. Lush production and strings were the name of the game, with Love’s "Forever Changes" and the Pretty Things’ "Emotions" being representative works of the era.
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  • The Monks’ spartan sound stuck out like, well, a tonsure at a long haired love-in.The album’s cover reflected the music’s stripped down minimalism. The word "monks" appeared on an all black cover, anticipating the Beatles’ famed "White Album" by over two full years. Most remarkable, perhaps, is the fact that every song on the record is an original. What other group debuted with an album comprised wholly of originals in early 1966? Besides the bastardized "We Do Wie Du," there wasn't a cover in sight.
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  • By mid-67, Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd and the Jimi Hendrix Experience debuted with records made up totally of original compositions, but the Monks seem have been the first rock n roll unit to do so.It was the music's uncompromising nature, though, that set it apart from its contemporaries. Whereas the Yardbirds graphic blues were mutating into psychedelia, the Monks music had no shadings. It was like an Orson Welles' movie set in post-war Europe i.e. stark and grim, shot in black-and-white. In 1966, the Yardbirds were referring to their music as "images in sound." If that holds true, then the Monks were producing music in black-and-white.

  •  At one show, they played with the Kinks, a band that at one time had been particular favorites of the ex-GIs. Larry Clark even used to sing the Kinks’ second hit, "All Day and All of the Night" at gigs. Unfortunately, the Americans’ admiration for the Brits was soon to sour slightly. Tempers flared backstage between Dave Day and the English group’s lead guitar player, Dave Davies. A fan had fought her way through security, hoping to secure a signature from her idols. The Kinks’ Davies abused her verbally and she broke into tears. The Monks’ Day consoled the fan, giving her an autographed photo of his band. She brightened and bustled away. Then, Day turned on the Kink."I told him he should treat his fans better. After all, they’re the ones responsible for making a band successful" Dave Day recalled.Dave Davies told the Yank to piss off. It’s quite telling that in his autobiography, "Kink," Davies makes short shrift of the Monks. He quickly mentions their stage persona, dismissing them as "silly." He never mentions the Monks’ music or his altercation with Day.Roger Johnston was nowhere near as diplomatic as his bandmate."The Kinks’ drummer (Mick Avory) and bass player (Peter Quaife) were nice guys," Johnston recalled. "But the Davies brothers (Ray and Dave) were arrogant pricks."

  •  Whatever the future holds, the Monks’ legacy is secure. They left an incredible document in the form of "Black Monk Time." In retrospect, 1966 was rock n roll music’s zenith, a watershed of experimentation, the promise of which has never been fulfilled. The Yardbirds’ "Happenings Ten Years Time Ago," a nuclear meltdown and aural firestorm posing as a pop song, has yet to be equaled. The Who’s early potential soon dissolved into Pete Townshend’s ego-tripping in an attempt to give rock n roll "meaning" when it already meant more than it ever would again.The Monks didn’t break up until 1967, but they were at their innovative peak the previous year. Modern music’s just now catching up. Bands like the Beastie Boys and the Fall claim them as an influence.      



 

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14/10/2017 10:32 am  #243


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DAY 66.
The Kinks.........Face To Face    (1966)




Ray Davies did not like the sleeve of The Kinks fourth album. "I wanted the cover to be black and strong like the sound of the LP," recalled Ray "instead of all those fancy colours"

Face To Face signaled a change of approach for Ray and the rest of the band. It was the first time they had spent months on a record, overdubbing tracks over the course of several sessions. It also marked the end for American producer Shel Talmy, whose rough 'n' ready methods did not suit the cleaner arrangements.

Face To Face was not a big hit, No. 139 in the US, and No .13 in the UK charts, but it did herald the start of The Kinks classic period.


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14/10/2017 7:05 pm  #244


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Great album, I have the vinyl still: but didn't get it when it came out, as we didn't have a record player until 1970. Grundig tape recorder before.

Unsure how I came about the disk, but folk used to buy records then  tape them and sell the vinyl. Maybe that's how.

However, for all the plaudits I'll give the record, if you aren't a Kinks fan, I'd understand you dismissing some tracks as fillers.

 

15/10/2017 10:42 am  #245


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DAY 66.
The Kinks.........Face To Face    (1966)




Bit late with this, yesterday was a really pissy frustrating day and I ended up bedded by 10 and in no fit state to write anything.

Tried to listen to the match on arabzone, and got nothing not even a reply from them, is there anything more frustrating than trying to listen to arabzone on a Saturday? 

  Obviously watching united live at the moment will top that, so any way decided to go for a quick drink at quarter to five ( yes, like a tit I kept refreshing in blind hope I would actully get to listen to some of the match) to calm myself down a bit,

This ended up with me staggering home at quarter to ten, and having a lively debate with my other half, which resulted in me spending the night in the spare room.
So thanks United and especially Arabzone.

Really enjoyed "Face To Face" hadn't heard a number of the tracks before, but none disappointed.
 I've stolen this from a review I read,

Maybe it’s because of the group’s ill-fated US trip early in their career, which saw them scuffling with the wrong folk – record company folk who would remain bitter and spoil their chances of breaking into the lucrative stateside market like their contemporaries had the opportunity to. The Kinks missed their chance to be part of the British Invasion like they should’ve been, and although it seems rather shameful on the one hand, in hindsight, in the other palm may rest an unlikely, but rather astounding side-effect.

Perhaps their almost closed-door relation to America caused The Kinks to evolve into what we have come to know and love them for – a distinctly British band, crafting pop songs rich with witty, ironic character portraits and poignant nostalgia. It was on Face To Face that this style truly showed its potential, with Ray Davies’ song writing evolving a considerable amount from previous efforts. Cuts such as the witty ‘Dandy’ or the slightly more pedestrian ‘Session Man’ bore witness to Davies’ changing style of writing, always sounding genuine and clever, with lines like “He’s not paid to think, just play” on the latter, and “Dandy, you know you’re moving much too fast / And dandy, you know you can’t escape the past / Look around you and see / The people settle down” on the former, adding a touch of pensiveness to proceedings, elevating the songs above mere whimsy and into the realms of something much more poignant.

Having liked The kinks for many years I do have a few of their albums, and although I enjoyed listening to this one, I won't be buying it, and as I can't afford to buy every album I like, I have to draw a line somewhere.

Before I forget, I went to see "Sunny Afternoon" the musical about the Kinks, if you get a chance to go and see it, go. It is one of the best musicals I've seen, but I may be biased as I do like The Kinks.


A bit about The Kinks upto 1966

The Kinks is the continuing obsession of one of Britain’s premier songwriting talents, Ray Davies (Raymond Douglas Davies, 21 June 1944, Muswell Hill, London, England; vocals, guitar, piano). Davies was raised in a large family in Fortis Green in the London borough of Haringey. He studied at Hornsey College of Art and gained a start in music as a guitarist with the Soho-based Dave Hunt Band. Originally performing R&B cover versions as the Ravens, Davies, his brother Dave Davies (b. 3 February 1947, Muswell Hill, London, England; guitar/vocals) and Peter Quaife (b. 31 December 1943, Tavistock, Devon, England; bass) formed the Kinks at the start of 1964, taking their name from the ‘kinky’ leather capes and boots they wore on stage. The trio was subsequently joined by Mick Avory (b. 15 February 1944, Hampton Court, London, England; drums). Their first single ‘Long Tall Sally’ failed to sell, although they did receive a lot of publicity through the efforts of their shrewd managers Robert Wace, Grenville Collins and ex-50s showbiz star Larry Page. Their third single, ‘You Really Got Me’, rocketed to the UK number 1 spot (and into the US Top 10), boosted by an astonishing performance on the UK television show Ready, Steady, Go! This and its successor, ‘All Day And All Of The Night’ (UK number 2/US number 7), provided a blueprint for hard rock guitar playing, with the simple but powerful riffs supplied by the younger Davies and fed through his home-made ‘green amp’.


 Over the next two years Ray Davies emerged as a songwriter of startling originality and his band was rarely out of the bestsellers list. Early in 1965, the Kinks returned to the top of the UK charts with the languid ‘Tired Of Waiting For You’. Over the water, the song climbed to number 6 on the US charts. The Kinks enjoyed a further string of UK Top 20 hits that year, including ‘Everybody’s Gonna Be Happy’, ‘Set Me Free’, ‘See My Friends’ (which introduced a new drone-like sound to the band’s canon and featured daring, sexually ambiguous lyrics) and ‘Till The End Of The Day’, and a further US Top 20 hit with ‘A Well Respected Man’.

Despite the humanity of his lyrics, Ray Davies was occasionally a problematical character, renowned for his eccentric behaviour. The other members of the Kinks were equally tempestuous and frequently violent. Earlier in 1965 at a gig in Cardiff, Wales, events had reached a head when the normally placid drummer, Mick Avory, attacked Dave Davies on stage with the hi-hat pedal of his drum kit, having been goaded beyond endurance. Remarkably, the band survived such contretemps and soldiered on.

A disastrous US tour the same year saw them banned from that country by the American Federation of Musicians, however, amid further disputes. The lengthy ban did little to help further the Kinks’ career, and by the time the band was let back into America at the end of the decade other UK acts including the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and the Who had stolen their spotlight.


 Throughout all the drama, Davies the songwriter remained supreme. He combined his own introspection with humour and pathos. The ordinary and the obvious were spelled out in his lyrics, but, contrastingly, never in a manner that was either.

‘Dedicated Follower Of Fashion’ brilliantly satirized Carnaby Street narcissism while ‘Sunny Afternoon’ (another UK number 1 and a US Top 20 hit) dealt with capitalism and class. ‘Dead End Street’ at the end of 1966 highlighted the plight of the working class poor: ‘Out of work and got no money, a Sunday joint of bread and honey’, while later in that same song Davies comments ‘What are we living for, two-roomed apartment on the second floor, no money coming in, the rent collector knocks and tries to get in’. All these songs were delivered in Davies’ laconic, uniquely English singing voice.


 The Kinks’ albums prior to 1966’s Face To Face had contained a staple diet of R&B standards and comparatively harmless Davies originals. With Face To Face and Something Else, however, he set about redefining the English character, with sparkling wit and steely nerve. One of Davies’ greatest songs was the final track on the latter; ‘Waterloo Sunset’ was a simple but emotional tour de force with the melancholic singer observing two lovers (many have suggested actor Terence Stamp and actress Julie Christie, but Davies denies this) meeting and crossing over Waterloo Bridge in London. It narrowly missed the top of the charts, as did the follow-up, ‘Autumn Almanac’, with its gentle chorus, summing up the English working class lifestyle of the 50s and 60s: ‘I like my football on a Saturday, roast beef on Sunday is all right, I go to Blackpool for my holiday, sit in the autumn sunlight’.

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15/10/2017 11:00 am  #246


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 67.
The Mamas And The Papas..............If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears   (1966)




After forming in the Virgin Islands, fron the remnants of folk-rock groups, The Journeymen and The Mugwumps, the quartet of Denny Doherty, Cas Elliott, Michelle Gilliam and her husband singer/songwriter/guitarist John Phillips moved to LA in 1965, where their sublime vocal harmonies secured them work with Barry (Eve Of Destruction) McGuire and his manager , Lou Adler.

The group's first hit was the million-selling "California Dreamin'," a wistful paean to the West Coast that highlighted their sumptuous vocals and stellar harmony work, followed by the gold U.S. chart-topping "Monday Monday."

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15/10/2017 10:59 pm  #247


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DAY 67.
The Mamas And The Papas..............If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears   (1966)





Listening to this album takes me back to the remark I made about the Beach Boys earlier, I like what they do and they are very good at what they do, but harmonies I can only take in small doses.

I enjoyed "Monday Monday" and " California Dreamin" which I'd imagine would have set you up nicely for "The Summer Of Love" which would take place in '67.

Can't say I enjoyed their covers of The Beatles " I Call Your Name" or Dobie Gray's fantastic "The 'In' Crowd"

All in all it was ok but no' one I could see me playing very often, so I wont be putting this album in my collection.

A couple of bits and bobs,

The Mamas & The Papas employed sophisticated vocal harmonies a` la Four Freshmen to fuel the celestial refrains of California Dreaming (1966), Go Where You Wanna Go (1966) and I Saw Her Again Last Night (1966), all written by their leader John Phillips, who also penned Scott McKenzie's ethereal hymn to flower-power San Francisco (1967).

The Mamas and Papas were one of the most popular vocal groups of the 60s and they embodied the quintessential hippie spirit. Their leader, John Phillips, got his artistic training in the folk clubs of New York, but in 1965 he moved to Los Angeles where he absorbed the vocal harmonies of the Everly Brothers and the Beach Boys. With a touch of intimacy a la Simon & Garfunkel, and an ear lent to the vocal quartets of the previous decade, the Mamas and Papas (a blend of two male and two female voices, including Mama Cass Elliot) radiated for a couple of years a soft and expressive sound, placed at the boundary between soul and folk-rock by producer Lou Adler.

The group was famous for the hits as well as for its provocative attitude toward drugs, promiscuity, and eccentric clothing.California Dreaming (1966) is the supreme tribute to the hippie generation. A superb melody with a hint of gospel suggests a religious pilgrimage to the promised land of rock, with a lively step and a melting flute solo. The mood of the song is the mood of a young subculture that had drastically changed from the early days of Dylan and the Byrds. Go Where You Wanna Go, another pearl from the album If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears (Dunhill, 1966), remains to date their most memorable refrain and their most exciting vocal counterpoint.

The Mamas And Papas took harmony singing of the 1950s, adapted it to the sound of folk-rock, and turned it into a national anthem for the hippie generation.The single Monday Monday (1966), the cover Dedicated To The One I Love (1967) and the album The Mamas And The Papas (1966) are a deviation toward easy listening a la Beatles: soft and romantic juvenile songs without backbone.It was their exuberant songs inspired by Tamla soul and Broadway musicals that justified their fame. Songs - such as I Saw Her Again Last Night (1966) and Twelve Thirty (1967) - that best described the ecstasy, the craze and the tenderness that the new generation was experiencing; that gave an aura of mythology to the new world of the youth, that transformed California into the garden of Eden, that turned parties into heroic events. It was with those songs that emphasized the chorus with cheerful rhythms and earnest vocal counterpoint, that the Mamas and Papas became the epitome of the hippie world.

The defining event of that zeitgeist, the Monterey festival, was in fact organized by Phillips and Adler


Mrs Phillips was a bit of a girl,


Recording was reportedly interrupted when Michelle Phillips became indiscreet about her affair with Gene Clark of The Byrds. A liaison the previous year between Michelle Phillips and Denny Doherty had been forgiven by her husband John Phillips; Doherty and John Phillips had reconciled and written "I Saw Her Again" about the episode. They later disagreed about how much Doherty contributed to the song. But after Michelle's affair with Clark, John Phillips was determined to fire her. After consulting their attorney and record label, he, Elliot, and Doherty served Michelle Phillips with a letter expelling her from the group on June 28, 1966.

So much for "Free Love" man!

 


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16/10/2017 12:37 pm  #248


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DAY 68.
Paul Revere And The Raiders.........Midnight Ride    (1966)



In 1966,the trademark snarl of lead vocalist Mark Lindsay on "Louie Go Home," sounded every bit as fierce as The Animals' Eric Burdon or  Them's Van Morrison, and was a significant influence on The Who's Roger Daltry.

And musically everything came together perfectly on Midnight Ride, on which nine of the tracks are band compositions.

The remaining tunes are arguably two of the greatest singles of the 1960s. Barry Mann and Cynthia Well's "Kicks" is a pounding antidrugs warning that nevertheless treats your brain as if it has been reduced to mush already.

Garage classic "I'm Not Your Stepping Stone" (by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart) would later be covered by The Monkees, but this version is the one that inspired The Sex Pistols' cover.

Haven't heard  any of their stuff but I think I'm going to like this one, what about you Pat?

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Variety of quality for me on the album: don’t enjoy the slower stuff, and the country type songs. Generally, the songs Paul Revere himself wrote I didn’t really like, excepting Louie, Go Home and Take a Look at Yourself.
 
Best tracks are Kicks, and Stepping Stone.
 
Generally, I don’t reckon this is a great album.

 

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PatReilly wrote:

Variety of quality for me on the album: don’t enjoy the slower stuff, and the country type songs. Generally, the songs Paul Revere himself wrote I didn’t really like, excepting Louie, Go Home and Take a Look at Yourself.
 
Best tracks are Kicks, and Stepping Stone.
 
Generally, I don’t reckon this is a great album.

Yeah a bit up and down, no' great but no' bad

I liked " Ballad Of A Useless Man" as well as the two mentioned above.
 


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