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bowers · 08/9/2015 11:57 am

I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

SlatefordArab · 08/9/2015 1:03 pm

10 minutes to go and he brings they two English duds on. Are thon Martin and Ritchie really better players than any of the other Scottish lads at his disposal?

Tek · 08/9/2015 3:06 pm

bowers wrote:
I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

Why not?

Tangerine_Ultra · 08/9/2015 3:54 pm

Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

Why not?

I agree with Tek on this one.

bowers · 08/9/2015 6:57 pm

Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

Why not?

Erm because that is my opinion on it overall. Do you think that banners welcoming refugees into countries has a place in football stadiums?

Morphman · 08/9/2015 7:32 pm

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

Why not?

Erm because that is my opinion on it overall. Do you think that banners welcoming refugees into countries has a place in football stadiums?

Agree wi Bowers, keep politics out of football.

huntedbyafreak · 08/9/2015 8:16 pm

The banner isn't political. Compassion isn't political

Tek · 08/9/2015 8:40 pm

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
I dont think that a banner welcoming refugees should be on the terracing of a football game in scotland.

Why not?

Erm because that is my opinion on it overall. Do you think that banners welcoming refugees into countries has a place in football stadiums?

Doesn't offend me in the slightest.

Again i'll ask you...why does it bother you?

What were witnessing is one of the biggest humanitarian crisises since WWII.

I think it's fucking fantastic that my fellow countrymen and women are extending the arm of friendship to these poor people.

bowers · 08/9/2015 8:51 pm

Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:

Why not?

Erm because that is my opinion on it overall. Do you think that banners welcoming refugees into countries has a place in football stadiums?
Doesn't offend me in the slightest.

Again i'll ask you...why does it bother you?

What were witnessing is one of the biggest humanitarian crisises since WWII.

I think it's fucking fantastic that my fellow countrymen and women are extending the arm of friendship to these poor people.

First of all i havent said it offends me i said it was dssapointing to see it, as ive said also its an opinion of mine that i dont like this sort of thing and dont think it has any place in a football stadium.

Tek · 08/9/2015 8:56 pm

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:

Erm because that is my opinion on it overall. Do you think that banners welcoming refugees into countries has a place in football stadiums?
Doesn't offend me in the slightest.

Again i'll ask you...why does it bother you?

What were witnessing is one of the biggest humanitarian crisises since WWII.

I think it's fucking fantastic that my fellow countrymen and women are extending the arm of friendship to these poor people.

First of all i havent said it offends me i said it was dssapointing to see it, as ive said also its an opinion of mine that i dont like this sort of thing and dont think it has any place in a football stadium.

Why is it 'dissapointing' though?What reason?

Because you don't believe in football and politics mixing?

huntedbyafreak · 08/9/2015 8:56 pm

Is it all political statements that you're against?

bowers · 08/9/2015 9:01 pm

huntedbyafreak wrote:
Is it all political statements that you're against?

I stay out of politics.

bowers · 08/9/2015 9:04 pm

Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:

Doesn't offend me in the slightest.

Again i'll ask you...why does it bother you?

What were witnessing is one of the biggest humanitarian crisises since WWII.

I think it's fucking fantastic that my fellow countrymen and women are extending the arm of friendship to these poor people.

First of all i havent said it offends me i said it was dssapointing to see it, as ive said also its an opinion of mine that i dont like this sort of thing and dont think it has any place in a football stadium.
Why is it 'dissapointing' though?What reason?

Because you don't believe in football and politics mixing?

Ffs tek how hard is that to understand?
Ive said that its a personal opinion of mine that i find a refugee welcome banner in a football stadium dissapointing.

I dont believe it has a place there thats that.

Quite simple really.

Trap_6 · 08/9/2015 9:12 pm

What's your stance on poppies on strips Bowers?

Tek · 08/9/2015 9:14 pm

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:

First of all i havent said it offends me i said it was dssapointing to see it, as ive said also its an opinion of mine that i dont like this sort of thing and dont think it has any place in a football stadium.
Why is it 'dissapointing' though?What reason?

Because you don't believe in football and politics mixing?

Ffs tek how hard is that to understand?
Ive said that its a personal opinion of mine that i find a refugee welcome banner in a football stadium dissapointing.

I dont believe it has a place there thats that.

Quite simple really.

I'm finding it very hard to understand because you can't answer a simple question.

I've asked you on about 3 occasions why do you find it 'dissapointing' to see it in a football crowd.

You haven't given a reason why.You said 'it doesn't have a place there'.Why not?

I'll ask again is it because you don't want football and politics mixing?

huntedbyafreak · 08/9/2015 9:21 pm

Is it ok when United fans take part in a minutes applause to raise awareness and campaign for the Government to change the law?

Like in the Cup Final in March?

bowers · 09/9/2015 5:59 am

Trap_6 wrote:
What's your stance on poppies on strips Bowers?

Personally dont mind it.

Again that is my opinion many others will be against poppys on strips.

bowers · 09/9/2015 6:02 am

huntedbyafreak wrote:
Is it ok when United fans take part in a minutes applause to raise awareness and campaign for the Government to change the law?

Like in the Cup Final in March?

Franks law?

I support franks law. I clapped my hands.

Should football fans need to be doing stuff like this at football games live on tv ti raise awareness of such campaign? Proberly not but its wht happened.

bowers · 09/9/2015 6:05 am

Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:

Why is it 'dissapointing' though?What reason?

Because you don't believe in football and politics mixing?

Ffs tek how hard is that to understand?
Ive said that its a personal opinion of mine that i find a refugee welcome banner in a football stadium dissapointing.

I dont believe it has a place there thats that.

Quite simple really.
I'm finding it very hard to understand because you can't answer a simple question.

I've asked you on about 3 occasions why do you find it 'dissapointing' to see it in a football crowd.

You haven't given a reason why.You said 'it doesn't have a place there'.Why not?

I'll ask again is it because you don't want football and politics mixing?

Nd ive said its a personal opinion i dont like it qhats hard to unserstand that i dont like or think a banner welcoming refugees into scotland is a good idea. There us many people who will do things to help these people i dont think a banner at a football match is right.
Certain fans lap this kind of crisis up.

hamishthegoalie · 09/9/2015 7:55 am

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
bowers wrote:

Ffs tek how hard is that to understand?
Ive said that its a personal opinion of mine that i find a refugee welcome banner in a football stadium dissapointing.

I dont believe it has a place there thats that.

Quite simple really.
I'm finding it very hard to understand because you can't answer a simple question.

I've asked you on about 3 occasions why do you find it 'dissapointing' to see it in a football crowd.

You haven't given a reason why.You said 'it doesn't have a place there'.Why not?

I'll ask again is it because you don't want football and politics mixing?

Nd ive said its a personal opinion i dont like it qhats hard to unserstand that i dont like or think a banner welcoming refugees into scotland is a good idea. There us many people who will do things to help these people i dont think a banner at a football match is right.
Certain fans lap this kind of crisis up.

I can kindof understand what you mean about certain people who "lap up" a crisis and use it to draw some kind of attention to themselves- I've seen it appropriately described as "grief tourism"- but in this case I think it reflects well on our supporters in particular and the Scottish public in general. It sends a very public message out that we do NOT stand shoulder to shoulder with that immoral, gutless and wicked individual cameron who would demonise these poor people and leave them to their fate in the hell that is Syria today. Clearly, football is not politics and there is an argument to keep it separate but it is also part of wider society and, as such, supporters are entitled to express their opinion on that society. As far as I'm concerned, any public platform which gives an opportunity to counter the hateful daily mail type "coming here to take our jobs and our houses and benefits blah blah blah" propoganda is very welcome. And so are the refugees..

Tangerine_Ultra · 09/9/2015 4:41 pm

hamishthegoalie wrote:
bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:

I'm finding it very hard to understand because you can't answer a simple question.

I've asked you on about 3 occasions why do you find it 'dissapointing' to see it in a football crowd.

You haven't given a reason why.You said 'it doesn't have a place there'.Why not?

I'll ask again is it because you don't want football and politics mixing?

Nd ive said its a personal opinion i dont like it qhats hard to unserstand that i dont like or think a banner welcoming refugees into scotland is a good idea. There us many people who will do things to help these people i dont think a banner at a football match is right.
Certain fans lap this kind of crisis up.
I can kindof understand what you mean about certain people who "lap up" a crisis and use it to draw some kind of attention to themselves- I've seen it appropriately described as "grief tourism"- but in this case I think it reflects well on our supporters in particular and the Scottish public in general. It sends a very public message out that we do NOT stand shoulder to shoulder with that immoral, gutless and wicked individual cameron who would demonise these poor people and leave them to their fate in the hell that is Syria today. Clearly, football is not politics and there is an argument to keep it separate but it is also part of wider society and, as such, supporters are entitled to express their opinion on that society. As far as I'm concerned, any public platform which gives an opportunity to counter the hateful daily mail type "coming here to take our jobs and our houses and benefits blah blah blah" propoganda is very welcome. And so are the refugees..

HTG has hit the nail on the head. Great post mate.