I hope ur on the wind up Sidney.

lifesanocean wrote:

I hope ur on the wind up Sidney.

Nope I'm not
 

Dods was in the same mould as Wright, McPake & Mackay, anyone who thinks differently is in denial.

lifesanocean wrote:

I suspect if we signed the entire St Johnstone back 4 or the entire Aberdeen back 4 they'd be making the same mistakes as our current defence within 6 months.  The problem lies with a) the manager b) the goalkeeper who inspires nervousness all-round c) the defensive midfielders who don't offer adequate protection.  With better coaching and a good kick up the arse our defence could be decent.

Agree.

There's no way the likes of St.Johnstone and ICT have better players than us 'pound for pound'.

The blame lies squarely at the Managers door.

Even with players like GMS,Armstrong,Gauld and Robertson in our arsenal we were underperforming in certain crucial games.

Jackie,Donnelly,Jackson and Hinchcliffe OUT.
 

Edmond Dantes wrote:

They 4 are nippy sweeties too

at Schiphol pre-season on way back home -we'd (me and PATTHEARAB) been to McD's ,the first team squad sitting beside us -we finished our Chicken McBigMac or whatever the fuck it was -came down the escalator JMac and his bummers came walking towards us -Pat goes jokingly 'better sort that out Jackie -all your first team are upstairs scoffing mcDonalds' want to see the stare he got from all of them. Interaction with fans -nul points.

I get that feeling about most of our club just now.

Starting with the Chairman Eddy
 

lifesanocean wrote:

I suspect if we signed the entire St Johnstone back 4 or the entire Aberdeen back 4 they'd be making the same mistakes as our current defence within 6 months.  The problem lies with a) the manager b) the goalkeeper who inspires nervousness all-round c) the defensive midfielders who don't offer adequate protection.  With better coaching and a good kick up the arse our defence could be decent.

Agree with that, I said in another thread that if Levein had our back four in training for a few weeks, there is no way they'd be shipping the goals they have been.

Our defence has been shite for ages now its been a big issue for a while.

 

bowers wrote:

Our defence has been shite for ages now its been a big issue for a while.

 

 
Yep. And it doesn't seem to matter who get picked either.

SlatefordArab wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

I suspect if we signed the entire St Johnstone back 4 or the entire Aberdeen back 4 they'd be making the same mistakes as our current defence within 6 months.  The problem lies with a) the manager b) the goalkeeper who inspires nervousness all-round c) the defensive midfielders who don't offer adequate protection.  With better coaching and a good kick up the arse our defence could be decent.

Agree with that, I said in another thread that if Levein had our back four in training for a few weeks, there is no way they'd be shipping the goals they have been.

Absolutely, but CL's attitude was we don't lose a goal we don't lose the game. Houstie, sharing the same mantra, then unshackled some of the flair players defensively and had some orgasmic success. Jackie then extended that freedom and improved the style (with the players available at the time) where the attitude became we'll score more than them (an attitude shared 100% by me) and it was glorious.

Now, the players available (or left behind?) don't lend themselves to option 3 so we're going to have to consolidate with a style something like Houstie (didnae want tae say Houstieesque ) until the future flair gems are uncovered (1 or 2 prospects in development in the next couple of years is'nt going to do it).
 

We binned Watson and Townsend for supposedly better options. McGowan has been ok Dixon has been poor. Both are good pros but they haven't really improved the defence.

Buck for me stops with the manager here. It looks like he's tried to buy a decent defence rather than work with them. It's really worrying

arabugsy wrote:

huntedbyafreak wrote:

We binned Watson and Townsend for supposedly better options. McGowan has been ok Dixon has been poor. Both are good pros but they haven't really improved the defence.

Buck for me stops with the manager here. It looks like he's tried to buy a decent defence rather than work with them. It's really worrying

Watson was a good honest pro with the heart of a lion and a superb attitude. But he couldn't stop a cross and I actually lost patience with him before Jackie, although I would've kept him for cover (Watson that is ).

There you go, proof I can criticise Utd players.
 

 


Say it ain't so, come back to the light Bugsy!

Tek wrote:

@Bugsy

Fucking BOO boy IMO.